The Einstein Dilemma

[CerebralEcstasy]

There's an article in the August 2006 issue of Discover called Gravity's Gadfly.

 

Has anyone else read it?

[learnin to learn]

nope

[UncleAl]

There's an article in the August 2006 issue of Discover called Gravity's Gadfly. Has anyone else read it?

MOND is curve fitting, as is Dark Matter. Both lack a fundamental basis and neither is supported by a falsifiable empirical observation. MOND is incompatible with General Relativity.

 

Mordechai Milgrom created MOND in 1983. Slowly accelerating objects get a slightly larger gravitational pull than Newton predicts. Newton is an approximation of gravitation assuming c=infinity. Newton was wrong.

 

http://wis-wander.weizmann.ac.il/site/en/weizman.asp?pi=371&doc_id=924

http://technology.guardian.co.uk/online/science/story/0,12450,894026,00.html

 

"Radical Gravity Theory Hits Large-Scale Snag"

Science 292(5522) 1629 (2001)

 

"Although MOND succeeds in individual galaxies such as M100, it fails in galaxy groups like the Virgo cluster."

 

Dead theory.

 

The simple and perseveratively unevaluated alternative is that galaxies are a visible exact solution to General Relativity. Crunch it in a supercomputer for a few weeks and find out... but that would create unemployment.

[maddog]

Yes, I have read it. Though I will now go and read the Science citation that

Uncle Al mentions. I am hesitant to jump on a bandwagon untill there is

quite a pile of evidence is viable. Apparently for more than a selective few

examples, Milgrom's theory isn't complete.

 

Though quite incomplete.

 

maddog

[learnin to learn]

well it is a good theory, but it is hard to believe that 2 of the best physicists to ever live were both wrong!

[FRIPRO]

well it is a good theory, but it is hard to believe that 2 of the best physicists to ever live were both wrong!

 

 

Well Einstine was right about e=mc2 in our section of the Uiverse. The only thought that I would question this is, that the Ether of the Universe may have a different density in the farther reaches of the Universe, thus the velocity of light would be different.

 

I also believe that the velocity of light can be exceeded, if the wave or mass traversing in Universe were forming a bow wave, as in Cerenkov Light.

FRIPRO

[InfiniteNow]

The only thought that I would question this is, that the Ether of the Universe may have a different density in the farther reaches of the Universe, thus the velocity of light would be different.

How does this comment align with the results of the experiments conducted by Michelson and Morley and others?

[FRIPRO]

How does this comment align with the results of the experiments conducted by Michelson and Morley and others?

 

Michelson and Morley conducted their experiments in our section of the Universe. If they had conducted their experiments 100 trillion trillon light years from our galaxy then their results would be different.

[learnin to learn]

how can you be so sure?

[Li Zifeng]

special and general relativities are all wrong.

[learnin to learn]

special and general relativities are all wrong

 

and what evidence supports your statement? or is it your own personal opinion?

[Li Zifeng]

The Essence of Special Relativity and Its Influence on Science-Philosophy and Society

Li Zifeng Li Tianjiang Wang Changjin Tian Xinmin Wang Zhaoyun

( Yanshan University, Hebei , Qinhuangdao 066004,China )

 

Abstract: This paper introduces nowadays status of special relativity in science and philosophy as well as society, reasons of special relativity becoming famous, three viewpoints on special relativity in academe, four attitudes of public on special relativity, comments of famous scientists on special relativity, periodicals and scientific meetings as well as networks studying questions on special relativity. This paper sums up argument focus on special relativity, analyzes the logic mistakes of special relativity, investigates the authenticities of validation and application of special relativity, and concludes that the essence of special relativity is a wrong logical inference embarking from the idealist standpoint, analyzes special relativity’s harms on science and philosophy as well as society. This paper advocates the materialism style of seeking truth from facts and the publication policy of a hundred flowers blossom and a hundred schools of thought contend, in order to liberate scientific research from imprisonment of special relativity. The views of space-time and mass-energy of idealistic special relativity should be abandoned and the views of space-time and mass-energy of materialism should be restored and developed.

[ughaibu]

Li Zifeng: Do you have a link to the full article? If not, could you e-mail me a copy, please.

[FRIPRO]

how can you be so sure?

 

http://www.newtonphysics.on.ca/michelson/michelson.html

 

This is an interesting Overlook Phenomena in the Michelson-Morley Experiment

 

I believe it indicates that questions are being raised with respect to the

 

1. Velocity of Light

2. An the Ether drift can come into question

3. The Wit particle mass (The Ether particle Universe's atmosphere calculation) by Fairbairn

 

Therefore I believe the light is not constant in all sections of the Universe and also there is an Ether (Newton's) based on the above three calculations.

[InfiniteNow]

Michelson and Morley... If they had conducted their experiments 100 trillion trillon light years from our galaxy then their results would be different.

The links you provided do nothing to support the claim that "their results WOULD be different." I am doubtful you will find any support for such a claim as no man made object (about which I am aware) has reached such cosmological distance, nor have any such experiments been conducted due to the distance involved.

 

I ask you now, considering the above, how are you able to, in good conscience, couch your statement in terms of the absolute?

[learnin to learn]

I can see how your statement can be a theory. But as infy said, it can be absolute unless we have actually tested it.

[Li Zifeng]

Moving Objects Observation Theory Replacing Special Relativity

Li Zifeng

( Yanshan University, Hebei, Qinhuangdao 066004,China )

Abstract: This paper introduces the basic hypotheses and viewpoints on space-time of the special relativity as well as of the moving objects observation theory. It proposes a new concept called visual space–time. Also, the relationship among the moving coordinate systems true space–time, fixed coordinate systems visual space–time and fixed coordinate systems true space–time has been established. From comparing the analysis, the author concluded that moving objects observation theory has solved the measurement problem of moving objects. Moving can not cause length change, time change or mass change. Nor is there light barrier. So the special relativity should be abandoned.