TheBigDog Posted August 7, 2006 Report Posted August 7, 2006 This is a space for confessing things that are on your mind. No penance, no retribution. Just a place to bare your soul and feel the healing power of honesty. I'll start it off... I feel like my posting has been shallow lately. I have been taking the lazy way instead of the thoughtful way in many cases cracking jokes instead of adding value. I am going to bump up my expectations of myself to get back on track. And I feel somehow deceptive when I post here sometimes. I have never gotten further than a high school diploma, which I failed to get on the first effort. I thought I was smarter than I really was, and had to go to adult school to complete my graduation requirements. I never spent a day in college. What I know I either learned in elementary, middle and high school, or have learned independently over the course of my life. I bring this up because it became a topic at work recently, and it is something that I need to deal with at some point to continue professional advancement. I have never been fond of school, and I am not certain how well I would do at it if I were to return. It is weird to talk about because those who know me just assume that I have some sort of degree, either from my professional position, or from my manner. I don't like to mention it normally because I fear that it taints the way people consider my intellectual contributions. But I guess I am comfortable enough around here now to let it float out there. Knowing the fine folks around here I am not worried about being discounted out of hand for the formality of what doesn't hang on my wall. Anyone else have something weighing on them that they would like to exorcise? Bill Quote
Queso Posted August 7, 2006 Report Posted August 7, 2006 Don't worry about it,You fooled me :shrug: Just look at the ways we can learn, nowadays (looks over at hypography, who's levitating by buddha) When I find something I need to confess I will definately come here,right now nothing comes to mindexcept strange, strange murmursfrom the walls? Quote
Queso Posted August 7, 2006 Report Posted August 7, 2006 p.s. It's Exercise :shrug:(can't help but correct people on their spelling) GAHD 1 Quote
CraigD Posted August 7, 2006 Report Posted August 7, 2006 Ooh! I always thought of a confessional as a ultra-private little cell containing you and a sworn-to-secrecy priest – nearly the exact opposite of a public internet forum! But if TBD dares bare his soul, how can I not follow suit? I feel my hypography behavior is uncomfortably close to that of Coberst’s "7872", chasing after every available opportunity to awe my internet friends with my amazing powers of basic algebra and search engine use. (um… if you fail to exercise humility in a confession, do you have to confess again, or is there some sort of exemption?) I believe my true strength, however great of small it may be, lies in tenaciously – and usually solitarily – attacking a single problem until it yields something of value. This is dull stuff, however, and unlikely to garner praise, so, like a junky putting the search for his next fix, I chase after fun and ego-stroking. Like TBD, most people believe I’ve completed more formal education than I have. I completed a BS in Math in 1982, but by 1986 was working so extensively in information technology (computers) that I began forgetting most of it, so that now, I need to review for tens of hours before attempting any but the most basic calculus, statistics, or analysis. Though I love Math, and love studying and doing it, I must confess that only through the greatest of conceits can I call myself a mathematician. All told including high school, college, and after, I have studied it seriously for the equivalent of about 6 years. I’ve been some form of professional computer programmer since 1976, and have spent about 50,000 hours at it. Professional IT is neither math nor science, but a trade, making me, in all honesty, an experienced and accomplished tradesperson, much analogous to a carpenter (but with less calloused hands). This is all just background, and pretty unremarkable at that. I haven’t gotten to a really grievous sin yet, so here goes… Though my favorite hobby (other than chasing after praise) is looking for a Really Big Thing in Math. Having found a Couple of Interesting Little Things in Math as a student, and having received praise for them, I’ve continued to think this hobby is Really Important. However, as I’ve already confessed, I’m not really a mathematician – the likelihood of me stumbling on a RBTiM through my hobbywork is very small. Much of IT is politics – convincing people who don’t know what is good for them that they should do what a knowledgeable person – you - know is good for them. I am really a “technologist” – one who has, IMO (and in the opinion of various people who put my in positions to make such decisions), a strong practical grasp of technology, and a good sense of where it should go. Like many Math enthusiasts, however, I don’t like politics. So, I don’t labor to steer technology in the direction my experience – and some rigorous work – tells me it should go. Knowing one’s right vocation, and refusing it is, I pretty sure, a serious sin. Forgive me … (the religious analogy breaks down for me here). Quote
Tormod Posted August 7, 2006 Report Posted August 7, 2006 I'l be briefer than CraigD and TBD (these guys jabber too much :)). I have never taken a science class in my life, except "Dinosaurs and Extinction" for required science credit and "Acoustics 101" for my music degree. I planned on becoming a musician but when I started high school I switched to social sciences and business. It's a move I don't regret too much because I shared most classes with a very good friend and I had a great time. However, there was no hard science anywhere (well, frankly, there was some biology and chemistry in the first year, but we're talking high school level - if anything it told me this is not for me). However, I've always been a fan of space and space exploration, cosmology, and astronomy. But I'm still more of a reader than a doer: I have peeked through a telescope exactly twice (to see the passages of Venus and Mercury in front of the Sun). I have read some 150 books on more or less "popular" science, everything from Carl Sagan to John Barrow and heavy cosmology, to biographies, history, and philosophy of science. I have reviewed about 100 of these on national radio. So I am not a scientist and have no plans on becoming one. It is not for me. Oh, and the confessional: I post too much here. I tend to stay out the heavy discussions these days due to the heat and a lot of other things on my mind. I have fought my fights and are sort of surfing the hypowaves. Ooops, another jabberer. :D Quote
Michaelangelica Posted August 7, 2006 Report Posted August 7, 2006 T I have never gotten further than a high school diploma,BillIsn't that what Einstein had too? You don't need qualifications you need to know how to read. One of my really great lecturers in psychology was told he was too dumb to stay at school and left at 15He did a trade; enjoyed thatDid his matriculation;enjoyed thatDid some teacher training;enjoyed thatDid a degree;liked thatDid an MA;liked thatDid a PHD;blitzed that.I met him as Professor of Psychology; a great guy, one of the best, because he had been there. Quote
Tarantism Posted August 7, 2006 Report Posted August 7, 2006 i confess that i over-analize sometimes. though i have recently broken (or at least decreased) that habit. of course, over-analization is relative, and we must consider many aspects of life before entering such a discussion :) Quote
ronthepon Posted August 7, 2006 Report Posted August 7, 2006 i confess that i over-analize sometimes. though i have recently broken (or at least decreased) that habit. of course, over-analization is relative, and we must consider many aspects of life before entering such a discussion :)What's there to confess in that? It's good to overanalyse at times. Quote
TheBigDog Posted August 7, 2006 Author Report Posted August 7, 2006 p.s. It's Exercise :)(can't help but correct people on their spelling)ex·or·cise To expel (an evil spirit) by or as if by incantation, command, or prayer. To free from evil spirits or malign influences. Mmmm hmmm.... :) ;) Bill Quote
infamous Posted August 7, 2006 Report Posted August 7, 2006 Mmmm hmmm.... :) :) BillMaybe Orby didn't see the movie, 'The Exorcist' ? Ohhh well, I guess one can't see them all, can they?? As to my confessions; I only finished 2 years of college after which I decided to start my own business. So my credentials are also lacking in this department. Besides having an interest in science from my earliest years, I am also an irrepressible romantic, loving poetry and old movies. The vicarious experience I receive from indulging in these often causes me to weep, sometimes with tears of joy and at other times, tears of empathy...........................Infy Quote
Boerseun Posted August 7, 2006 Report Posted August 7, 2006 You think an exorcise bike will do a fat priest any good? :) Quote
Mercedes Benzene Posted August 7, 2006 Report Posted August 7, 2006 I keep my money in off-shore bank accounts. Quote
infamous Posted August 7, 2006 Report Posted August 7, 2006 I keep my money in off-shore bank accounts.How about a loan my friend? Quote
Cedars Posted August 7, 2006 Report Posted August 7, 2006 I keep my money in off-shore bank accounts. You have money?? Quote
Mercedes Benzene Posted August 7, 2006 Report Posted August 7, 2006 You have money?? Why wouldn't I have money? :steering: Quote
Cedars Posted August 7, 2006 Report Posted August 7, 2006 I bring this up because it became a topic at work recently, and it is something that I need to deal with at some point to continue professional advancement. I have never been fond of school, and I am not certain how well I would do at it if I were to return. I attended my first college class at 35 or so. I began that quest via encouragement from people I met on the www. I wanted to learn how to use my computer. Some people suggested "just take a class or two, you'll learn so much!" They were right. I was better at being a student because I wanted to learn what I was studying. Going to night classes put me in classes with working people my own age and I was not surrounded by the youth who did not take the schooling as seriously as I did (I began with day classes and found a part time job so I switched to nights). I met people (adults) who knew what it was like to pay bills and valued the money being spent on our classes with more vigor. I understand the old saying "youth is wasted on the young" now and sometimes we would joke about that and suggest people under thirty should not be allowed into college. They are just not grown up enough. Kidding aside. I also learned that some of the struggles I endured in school were not because I didnt want to learn, but because I just wasnt good at it (math). I was rewarded in other aspects with courses I would have blown off in high school (economics) and found them very interesting later in life. There were people who didnt need the classes but had to take them for the degree. What a help to me they were! I know they found reward in helping me along. Little things like my ability to type and chat inspired one gentleman to take typing courses during the summer. He was so proud of himself and told me he wanted to chat and type too! The laughs we had together! If you are considering going back I would say it will be money well spent, even if you dont finish the degree. Due to a divorce I was unable to finish (yet). Excellent topic btw. Quote
InfiniteNow Posted August 7, 2006 Report Posted August 7, 2006 Indeed... cool thread idea... a little touchy feely, but hey... :cup: I see myself as a kind and caring human being, but have since realized that I can be a complete and total ******* to people. When something rubs me the wrong way, I have no qualms pointing it out in the most belittling and condescending way. In my past, I would have pushed recognition of this fact down, for it contradicts my original self image. Now, with experience on the site, I find that I am more accepting of myself being a dickhead from time to time, and actually quite enjoy doing so. So basically, I confess to being a prick once in a while, and also that I enjoy doing so. :cup: Nothing but love... ;) Quote
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