KronoNomikon Posted May 11, 2006 Report Posted May 11, 2006 hi, just started posting in the forums today....... you know, concerning gravity and magnetism... what if all the little subatomic particles had like a gyroscopic motion... and when the materials get ionized to align the magnetic fields... what if that's like pushing them all straight (or sideways) which sucks them side-by-side, and so in one direction, they are sucked together inter-atomically, and on the other hand it repels (the rolling force)that is to say, what if they had to become lined up single file? does the number of particles in the atom seem to affect the ability to organize the particles in such a way as to make a magnet in a standard way, such as it may or may not be easier to magnetize a material with an even number of protons and neutrons, or that it's easier or more difficult to magnetize (and keep magnetized) something with more or less of these altogether? I wanted to know if anyone here could tell me... thank you for your time :hyper: Quote
InfiniteNow Posted May 11, 2006 Report Posted May 11, 2006 Hello KronoNomikon, Welcome to Hypography! I hope you enjoy your visit. Personally, I'm neither chemist nor particle physicist, so I'll need to defer your questions to some other better informed member, but I too look forward to the answer. Cheers. ;) Quote
iamyourmaster Posted May 13, 2006 Report Posted May 13, 2006 Time Travel is not possible do to the true expanding atomic reality of the universe. However, FTL IS possible if given the proper expulsion apparatus and inguene constuction model. The Final Theory tells it like it is and if you want to lead a better life I suggest you read it THOUROUGHLY and really understand what it says, what it means and how exactly it applies to us as humans and creatures of creation. Thanks again for "The Final Theory" IAMYOURMASTER - and don't forget it. Quote
ldsoftwaresteve Posted May 13, 2006 Report Posted May 13, 2006 Time Travel is not possible do to the true expanding atomic reality of the universe. However, FTL IS possible if given the proper expulsion apparatus and inguene constuction model. The Final Theory tells it like it is and if you want to lead a better life I suggest you read it THOUROUGHLY and really understand what it says, what it means and how exactly it applies to us as humans and creatures of creation. Thanks again for "The Final Theory" IAMYOURMASTER - and don't forget it.lol. You are one strange duck. You remind me of Steven in Braveheart. "My island". Just a tad off center. Nice to meet you though. lol Tormod 1 Quote
CrimsonWolf Posted May 15, 2006 Report Posted May 15, 2006 I am back! My new job has been keeping me busy for awhile. Nice to see things are going along. hehe I strongly suggest new posters read previous posts. We have covered a variety of questions and debates. I also point to my observation by how expansion can be strongly effected by the state and density of the matter in question. Gas planets for example would be expanding from the more dense core. Jupiter for example is believed to be 2.4 G on the surface (if it had one). In expansion theory the core would be like a world 2.4 times the Earth's size. It's expansion pushes the surrounding gas outward (solid matter has more density or push than gas). Since the overall matter expands at the same % then the overall relative size remains the same. Yet the measured acceleration at the "surface" would be less than the size would indicate. Current theory explains gas planets as being less dense than solid planets(made of less matter) and therefore have less gravity. Different explanations for the same observation. Quote
InfiniteNow Posted May 15, 2006 Report Posted May 15, 2006 I strongly suggest new posters read previous posts. We have covered a variety of questions and debates. What a good idea. However, before I do, I wanted to ask a question... I remember this spring, I was browsing the web, searching for something, and came across the first chapter of the book "The Final Theory". So, today i was browsing this some threads on this site, and an ad saying something like "the mystery of physics solved", or something along the lines came up, interested, i clicked on it and the ad for "The Final Theory" came up. I was just wondering if anyone here read it, and if so what they thought of it... :thumbs_up Quote
ldsoftwaresteve Posted May 17, 2006 Report Posted May 17, 2006 Crimsonwolf:I strongly suggest new posters read previous posts. We have covered a variety of questions and debates. Hey, welcome back.Yes we have but there are some subjects that have not been covered. It would be really cool if we could branch off into different subthreads. For instance, Black Holes or Magnetism or the double slit experiment. But that would require a new way of organizing the discussions as well as a method of presenting that to us, the users. I suspect the format of this will change somewhat in the future. Quote
Erasmus00 Posted May 18, 2006 Report Posted May 18, 2006 Crimsonwolf:Hey, welcome back.Yes we have but there are some subjects that have not been covered. It would be really cool if we could branch off into different subthreads. For instance, Black Holes or Magnetism or the double slit experiment. But that would require a new way of organizing the discussions as well as a method of presenting that to us, the users. I suspect the format of this will change somewhat in the future. Why not start new threads? Mabe in the physics/mathematics or perhaps more appropriately the strange claims forum. -Will Quote
ldsoftwaresteve Posted May 18, 2006 Report Posted May 18, 2006 erassmus:Why not start new threads? Mabe in the physics/mathematics or perhaps more appropriately the strange claims forum. Well, if McCutcheon is wrong, then you have nothing to worry about Will. But if he's right, then I guess that would make you kind of an ***, eh? Would you be big enough to admit it? Quote
IDMclean Posted May 18, 2006 Report Posted May 18, 2006 I hold my own model, I was sad to learn that McCutcheon was not progressing towards what I thought he was. He came close to what I believe to be the truth of the matter (Pun intended). I'm not sure if it's relavent but here's something that reminded me of this:Cosmic Inflation. I was actually rather pleased to see the dissection of the Newtonian Model. I would agree with him that I find it funny that Cosmologist use non-relative models to analyze relative phenomena... I ask, has the GR and SR been used to model the mass of the galaxy? As we know when mass begins to approach c it increases. Has this been taken into account for the calculations that have led to the formulation of Dark Matter? Quote
ldsoftwaresteve Posted May 18, 2006 Report Posted May 18, 2006 KickAssClown:I hold my own model, I was sad to learn that McCutcheon was not progressing towards what I thought he was. He came close to what I believe to be the truth of the matter (Pun intended).Cool. Can I take that to mean you read the book? Quote
IDMclean Posted May 18, 2006 Report Posted May 18, 2006 I infer the ending from discussion and from what I know of the book, IE first chapter. The first chapter read very much like to my own discoveries regarding the nature of Newtonian theory, however he missed some key points, at least initially. Like for instance that in GR gravity is no longer concidered a force, in the conventional sense. Infact, under Relativity Gravity IS NOT a force, it is a function of the curviture of spacetime, which is in turn affected by charge moving across space. I have posted on the nature of Spacetime curviture and the non-newtionian aspects of gravity. If you would like I could post links to some of those discussions. Further he seemingly missed that GR recognized the inequities created by Newtonian Action at a Distance. That GR predicted (seemingly correctly) that gravity "waves" propagate at the speed of light. So like I said, I hold my own model, which agrees with Standard Model while at the same time further explains the nature of mass, matter, charge and energy. The main step towards expressing my model is the Quantization of charge, which has to happen for my model to begin to make mathematical sense, something that I am resistant to doing myself. Quote
ldsoftwaresteve Posted May 20, 2006 Report Posted May 20, 2006 KickAssClown:I infer the ending from discussion and from what I know of the book, IE first chapter.His approach is really different and begins with a basic assumption that as yet has not been proven, i.e. that all matter is expanding at a constant rate. The book, however, goes on to show that all phenomena can be explained in terms of this expansion and he even goes so far as to come up with a different model for the makeup of light, the nature of magnetism, electricity and gravity.The most frightening conclusion is that we are blind to the expansion because we are expanding along with everything else. The only hint of this expansion that we can perceive is the effect of gravity. And since gravity is just an effect, we will never, ever, find gravitons or gravity waves or anything like that.I have concluded that fear keeps many from considering the truth that McCutcheon might have discovered. We don't want to consider that we might be blind to the way the universe really works or that we could have been so mistaken for so long, because if McCutcheon is correct, a lot of people are going to look really, really dumb. And that is very unfortunate because people will do most anything to maintain their status in life and how they are seen by others.IF McCutcheon is correct, every area of science will have to be rethought and the models retooled.I have also concluded that the world of science is filled with pretense. Discovery seems to be shoe-horned into current models or it is ignored and I see people arguing about this and that and their only goal is to 'win' the argument as though that were synonymous with identifying the truth.On the bright side, I think we're on the cusp of a new Renaissance. There will be a lot of wreckage but from the ashes will come a new way of seeing reality and our place in it. But I think the most profound changes will take place in the humanities, believe it or not, because the spirit of exploration will invade every area of science and that one is as backward as all the rest, perhaps more so.The failures of the study of humanity are so profound that I believe that 90% or more of the people on this planet are mentally ill. Breakthroughs of the kind that McCutcheon may have discovered will eventually affect the humanities, because when we see that the universe can be understood the energy that releases will spill over into how we relate with existence and with each other. When the search for truth is the only thing that matters (values and morality), then and only then will we reach our full potential. And maybe then the bloodshed and insanity will stop. Quote
IDMclean Posted May 20, 2006 Report Posted May 20, 2006 I have a model, which I've been working that would explain mass, energy, quantize charge, unify the forces into two distict and similar forces, describe gravity without the Graviton, and perhaps more, I am not capable of thinking of all the impacts it would have if it is correct. However as of yet, due to my inability to express my theorm in mathematical terms I have gotten luke warm to cold reception of my concept. When I read the first chapter of McCutcheon's book I thought he was coming to the conclusion I had come to, in reading through those parts of physics lately, however through what I've heard here on this thread I concluded that he had swerved on the path. I am glad that he has had such a pround effect on you ID, however I conclude that he is perhaps mistaken. And yes, it's not even 90%, I would say more like 99%-100% of humanity at current is insane, by definition. I feel that because we do not accept that we are insane we create dukkha, we suffer from it. When we accept that our psychosis are part of who we are then we eliminate the dukkha created from it and we draw closer to self-actuation. Quote
viscount aero Posted July 8, 2006 Report Posted July 8, 2006 this thread is huge and i've only read a small portion of it. anyway, someone challenged me on another forum about the final theory. someone please help me to frame this into the final theory, and/or if the poster's challenge is erroneous and untrue: "That doesn’t work. Reduce this to the most basic example. Two objects of the same physical dimensions, but different masses, falling towards the Earth. Measure the distance from the center of each object to the center of the Earth over a period of time. The center of the more massive object will approach the Earth at a faster rate than the less massive object. If gravity was caused by expansion as you claim, the centers would approach at the same rate. They will not. Your hypothesis is invalid." he claims the more massive object will fall faster, given the two objects are the same size (which invalidates the size over mass premise of final theory) but all i can come up with is that the mass-distributions are not the same between the two objects. so what am i missing? or is the poster's challenge false? he mentioned the "2-body problem" and other things above my head. Quote
IDMclean Posted July 8, 2006 Report Posted July 8, 2006 Different Density? This has an affect on gravity? I was of the understanding that two bodies, neglecting air-friction, will fall at exactly the same rate. Irregardless of mass. They will have different... measured energy based on their velocity squared time half their mass. Quote
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