What is education?

[cwes99_03]

Have you read the rest of the thread merc? If not read it then come back to your question. I'm not sure, but I think it has already been alluded to and possibly answered above.

[Mercury]

Yes, I have. To educate... to learn... they are nicely defined up there. I am just afraid that, while coming up with an answer, I mixed up the two. :D

[cwes99_03]

OK, I think that's why it is being asked, because it is hard to answer.

[Ganoderma]

How about the result of learning? Very simple. Too contrite?

 

that sounds about right to me.anything from eating something poisonous, to going to class to going swimming. we all learn something from it.

[LJP07]

Speaking of education, I was thinking of completing a major Physics degree, but was worried about the types of jobs I could get, so what jobs could I get about Physics and maybe Biology?

[Ananke]

Other.

 

Education is social control.

[cwes99_03]

Speaking of education, I was thinking of completing a major Physics degree, but was worried about the types of jobs I could get, so what jobs could I get about Physics and maybe Biology?

Hey, P, this isn't the place to ask. Start a different thread, don't hijack this one, ok. :)

[infamous]

Education should be a life long pursuit in quest of satisfying the insatiable thirst for knowledge accompanied by intense curiosity................Infy

[Ananke]

Thats not the question. In an ideal world, education would the persuit of knowledge and democracy would be rule by the people. The OP asked what education is, not what it should be.

[cwes99_03]

Should be could be what Infamous meant as is. The pursuit of knowledge is also not a good definition of education, but a description of how one obtains an education.

 

My suggested definition was the result of learning, to which you may add, the result of a pursuit of knowledge (but sometimes a pursuit of knowledge does not result in an education, so I like to stick with my first definition).

[Ananke]

The result of learning is knowledge, not education. Education includes knowledge, of course, but that is not its primary purpose. It exists to pass on social and cultural norms to the next generation, and as such is a tool of social control. The enlightened mind has no need for education, since she can learn what she needs herself, without needing to be told what to think.

[infamous]

The result of learning is knowledge, not education. Education includes knowledge, of course, but that is not its primary purpose. It exists to pass on social and cultural norms to the next generation, and as such is a tool of social control.

Soooo, are you saying that history and the lessons learned by those which have endured it are of no value????

 

 

 

The enlightened mind has no need for education, since she can learn what she needs herself, without needing to be told what to think.

And to what ingredient does SHE give credit for all this Enlightenment if not the history of her own experience. BTW, if not for the tutorship of her elders, SHE would not even know how to speak a language....................Infy

[Ananke]

You are putting words into my mouth and either willfully ignoring what I write or failing to understand it.

 

I never claimed knowledge is not important. I merely take issue with your simplistic view that education is about imparting knowledge, when its primary purpose is indoctrination and social control.

[infamous]

You are putting words into my mouth and either willfully ignoring what I write or failing to understand it.

How is it possible for me to put words in the mouth of one so enlightened?????????

 

I never claimed knowledge is not important. I merely take issue with your simplistic view

A life long quest is no simple thing...............

 

 

that education is about imparting knowledge, when its primary purpose is indoctrination and social control.

Without some indoctrination and social control society itself could not exist. Are you an anarchist if I may be permitted to ask?................Infy

[cwes99_03]

Ok. Hold up. Quit bickering.

 

When someone receives no education, it is because they don't learn anything. To learn means to gain knowledge not previously held (which includes making adjustments to knowledge thought to already have.)

 

One may also say you received a bad education, because what you did learn was false information. You still learned something, but what you learned was nothing but lies.

 

Either way you received an education. That education was the result of learning (being learned/taught) either by experience or sitting in a chair and observing.

 

Thus my original definition stands. Education - the result of learning

[Ananke]

How is it possible for me to put words in the mouth of one so enlightened?????????

 

The result of learning is knowledge, not education. Education includes knowledge, of course, but that is not its primary purpose. It exists to pass on social and cultural norms to the next generation, and as such is a tool of social control.

 

A life long quest is no simple thing...............

 

That would depend on the person undertaking the quest.

 

Without some indoctrination and social control society itself could not exist.

 

What is your point? I never said that social control was not desirable. Please try to address my points, not your own preconceptions.

 

Are you an anarchist if I may be permitted to ask?................Infy

 

You may ask what you wish. Do so via PM, and not by taking the thread OT.

[infamous]

 

 

 

You may ask what you wish. Do so via PM, and not by taking the thread OT.

The questions I've asked you were relevant to this thread, if you refuse to answer them, that's your choice. If you have issue with those questions, you may PM me any time you wish.........................Infy