Opinion or Judgement.

[LJP07]

When is an opinion not a judgement and what is defined as an opinion and do they cross over with judgements.

[coberst]

When is an opinion not a judgement and what is defined as an opinion and do they cross over with judgements.

 

Everyone has an opinion about everything. Opinions are 'a dime-a-dozen'. Judgments are based on careful analysis and consideration. Either can be correct but the judgment has the better odds of being correct.

[ughaibu]

Judgement has some problems, for example the Buridan sentence "you do not believe this sentence", the lottery paradox (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lottery_paradox), etc.

[cwes99_03]

Everyone has an opinion about everything. Opinions are 'a dime-a-dozen'. Judgments are based on careful analysis and consideration. Either can be correct but the judgment has the better odds of being correct.

 

Not so, many people pass judgement on things without having nearly all the facts.

 

As such the above statment you made could be considered a judgement.

 

The difference between a judgement and an opinion is that all judgements are based upon opinion. However, not all opinions are judgemental (meaning that you don't allow your opinion to shape the way you think or feel on a subject.)

 

In my opinion, homosexuality is wrong, however, I would only be making a judgement if I decided not to associate with homosexuals.

[LJP07]

So if I have a really fat dog and I say to the dog:

 

" You are fat ",

That's what I think, so that's an opinion.

Although, he is very obese, therefore I'm also making a judgement?

Is this correct!?

[coberst]

So if I have a really fat dog and I say to the dog:

 

" You are fat ",

That's what I think, so that's an opinion.

Although, he is very obese, therefore I'm also making a judgement?

Is this correct!?

 

I would call it a judgment made about a very simple matter that anyone could make a similiar judgment in a matter of a few seconds provided the dog is very fat. If the dog is just slightly over the weight considered proper by dog experts then you may be merely offering an opinion rather than a judgment. It all depends upon the measured evidence, which are the scientific facts, and how carefully you analyzed the facts.

 

To make a judgment requires one to carefully evaluate the evidence. Since you did not give me all the facts I am required to make allowances for that in my answer. That is why comprehension of the difference between opinion and judgment is so important. We must make decisions constantly in our life and how well we make those decisions is dependent upon the quality of our judgment.

[cwes99_03]

No, a judgement would only be made if you said "You're fat, and we are going to change your diet." Judgement requires action.

Now some actions may be harder to discern. Someone lecturing a young child for a wrong doing has made a judgement. Someone looking down their nose at another person for being different has made a judgement and the action is a change in their demeanor (i.e. looking down the nose.)

[LJP07]

Understood, so if I said to you " I think you should get a job ", and I was sneering that you didn't have a job for the past while, I would be making a judgement, is it true to say that these judgements shouldn't be made?

 

Out of the situation I mentioned above, what sentence would clarify as an opinion, anything related to the above scenario?

[Southtown]

I think judgementality is tied to our individual ideas of right and wrong. That's how someone can mean something in a good way and still be taken to mean it in a bad way. By good I mean constructive or helpful, and by bad I mean malicious or uncaring. Am I clear as mud? Hehe

[Kriminal99]

No, a judgement would only be made if you said "You're fat, and we are going to change your diet." Judgement requires action.

Now some actions may be harder to discern. Someone lecturing a young child for a wrong doing has made a judgement. Someone looking down their nose at another person for being different has made a judgement and the action is a change in their demeanor (i.e. looking down the nose.)

 

I think this is a really good explanation.

 

IMO the only kind of judgement that can ever be justified is the judgement made of pure necessity and after every reasonable and honest attempt has been made to understand the objections of anyone who might disagree with a judgement.

[infamous]

Webster's defines judgement as; 'The ability to come to an opinion.' Taking this definition into account, one comes to understand that judgement is a verb indicating action. On the other hand, opinion is a noun indicating a state of mind......Infy

[LJP07]

Can you give me several example of judgements and opinions?

[Kriminal99]

Tbh why does it matter what websters says? It says whatever is decided to be the most useful definition of something. That is what we are doing. Who needs a carbon copy of the concept of opinion?

 

We aren't talking about what websters does say, but rather what it should say.

[LJP07]

It says whatever is decided to be the most useful definition of something. That is what we are doing.

 

 

I think he was trying to make the discussion lead towards the more correct assumption to try and define it more accurately with keeping it's average definition in mind. Not saying your wrong though:shrug:

 

And, can you disagree with an opinion and are opinions wrong or can they be wrong?

[cwes99_03]

Ok, I too like to go to dictionaries to provide a basis. The provided definition however does not really define a whole lot. So I think we are doing more here to determine the differences of judgement and opinion.

 

Opinion; you are fat

Judgement: I tell you to lose some weight, I tell you you are fat, I laugh at how big you are, I tell you to get lost (because I don't want to be around fat people)

 

Opinion: christians are whackos

Judgement: Jehovah's witness comes to my door I slam it in their face, Bishop gets caught sodomizing a boy and I laugh and say what else is new, I burn down every church I see, I create a website to show how many lies churches are spreading.

 

Opinion: Hypography is the best website on earth.

Judgement: I become a member, I actively post every day, I tell others about it all the time.

 

Opinion is a thought, and it can be wrong. However, it is yours and yours to have. So if someone asks your opinion, then you can't answer their question wrongly (or can you, yes, if you tell a lie then it is wrong because it is not really your opinion) because the person doesn't really know what you believe.

 

People disagree with opinions all the time. If they didn't then there would be total consensus on all things because nobody would ask questions.