Who is a teacher?

[hallenrm]

Except for a swimming teacher...

 

Oh, but one can say that a swimming teacher is not really a teacher; only a trainer. Ha Ha! :fly:

[Turtle]

Oh, but one can say that a swimming teacher is not really a teacher; only a trainer. Ha Ha! :fly:

Oh truer words one never spoke, but one can say that I have learned that there are more ways to get a thing wrong than to get it right.:naughty:

[Tarantism]

i think i may have heard somewhere...i think maybe here at hypography..something that went like this:

 

"there may be a limit to genious, but stupidity appears infinate."

[Turtle]

i think i may have heard somewhere...i think maybe here at hypography..something that went like this:

 

"there may be a limit to genious, but stupidity appears infinate."

If I point out that you misspelled "infinite", have I taught you anything at all?:cup: :) :hihi:

[cwes99_03]

Are we really going over this? What is the point of this thread?

Did we not already discuss what education is? Isn't a teacher simply someone/something who provides education?

 

I may be self-taught, book-taught, school-learned, experienced, etc.

 

All of these things teach. I learn by experience, I'm a product of the school of hard knocks, I read books and I learn, I was taught from kindergarten through 4 years of post-secondary school, I taught myself how to whistle and how to blow a buble with gum after having seen others do this, thus they taught me too.

 

I think the creator of this thread was not taught by the other thread.

[hallenrm]

Are we really going over this? What is the point of this thread?

I think the creator of this thread was not taught by the other thread.

 

Well there is no rule that compels you to respond to a thread! :hammer:

 

Education and teacher are different concepts, a teacher does not simply mean anyone who assists in providing education. It is to emphasize this point that I started this thread. !!1 I suppose your objection has been noted by the community! :doh:

[Turtle]

Well there is no rule that compels you to respond to a thread! :doh:

 

Education and teacher are different concepts, a teacher does not simply mean anyone who assists in providing education. It is to emphasize this point that I started this thread. !!1 I suppose your objection has been noted by the community! :doh:

 

Nor one compelling me to not.:doh:

As I say I am a swimming teacher and you say not, please what disqualifies my efforts as teaching? :hammer:

[hallenrm]

As I say I am a swimming teacher and you say not, please what disqualifies my efforts as teaching?

 

I can never contest the fact that you are a swimming teacher, at best I can say that in the normal usage of the term, a swimming teacher is better described as a swimming trainer, although I would say that an exceptional swimming trainer may be called a swimming teacher. Same holds true for the majority of so called teachers employed in scools/colleges/universities. :hammer:

[cwes99_03]

I would point out your falacy.

 

A trainor is someone who takes the skills one already has and teaches that one how to work better. A trainor then is a teacher in that they teach one how to hone their skills.

A teacher also teaches completely new skills or lessons.

 

Broaden the definition to cover all of these, and you get the same results as the other "what is education thread". They are intertwined. Thus my post.

 

Whether or not something compels me to post here is not of concern. What is of concern is that you thought you need begin another thread that answers the same question as far as I and some others see it. Thus this new thread should have been a continuation of the old thread, thereby building on what has already been discussed and concluded.

[Turtle]

I can never contest the fact that you are a swimming teacher, at best I can say that in the normal usage of the term, a swimming teacher is better described as a swimming trainer, although I would say that an exceptional swimming trainer may be called a swimming teacher. Same holds true for the majority of so called teachers employed in scools/colleges/universities. :confused:

 

Understood. :shade: I am a swimming teacher who is anything but not exceptional. ;)

[Tarantism]

If I point out that you misspelled "infinite", have I taught you anything at all?:hihi: :doh: :fly:

yes. typos begh.

[IDMclean]

My definitions for the versatile word teacher is thus:

 

 

A teacher is an individual recognized in one way or another by a body of similarly deemed qualified individuals forming a socially recognized governing body of educational medium.

 

Further, recognized to be dominant and/or specialized in the given area of knowledge to such a degree so as to be capable of imparting knowledge and wisdom of their expertise to (willing) subservient individuals (known as students) whom often, though not always, acknowledge a personal lacking in the given area. There by forming a heirarchial, authoritive, relationship for the purpose of mutual individual growth.

 

This is only one form of the definition. There are other ways to say and mean teacher, but this is the one I think of commonly here in America, as it describes our educational paradigm best for me.

 

This is not to say this is the definition of the Ideal Teacher. So this is like defining distance by the length of my foot, rather than defining it objectively, like defining distance by a universal constant.

 

I await your ridicule of my definition for (authoritive) teachers.

[Turtle]

My definitions for the versatile word teacher is thus:

 

A teacher is an individual recognized in one way or another by a body of similarly deemed qualified individuals forming a socially recognized governing body of educational medium.

 

Further, recognized to be dominant and/or specialized in the given area of knowledge to such a degree so as to be capable of imparting knowledge and wisdom of their expertise to (willing) subservient individuals (known as students) whom often, though not always, acknowledge a personal lacking in the given area. There by forming a heirarchial, authoritive, relationship for the purpose of mutual individual growth.

 

I await your ridicule of my definition for (authoritive) teachers.

 

Brace yourself for some praise for your definition Kloun! ;) Spelling, narrow scope, & other writing airs aside, your definition affirms my swimming teachertudinality.:shrug:

 

According to me a true teacher is one who dedicates one's life to the art of learning and then communicating knowledge and personal experiences and thought. A true teacher would think deeply about every bit of knowledge that s/he gets and then reflect upon the process by which it can be received most efficiently by his/her pupils. Teaching, according to me is an art, in which only few become proficient. The most proficient practitioners of this art are the most respected teachers!!!

 

I employed all of what you say and more in my teaching of swimming. Every swim teaching session is an ever-present immediate life and death matter; few deeper thoughts prevail in teachers' roles.:hyper:

[hallenrm]

I think much of the difference in perception is because of cultures. In Indian culture there are two different words describing a teacher; the first one is Adhyapak- person who help/guides in the studies (Adhyan) much the same as the popular western culture; and second is Guru, a person who is a master of particular kind of knowledge and has devoted his life towards transmitting that knowledge to the seeker. Examples of illustrious Gurus are Guru Dronacharya of Mahabharata fame, who taught archery to the princes; Arjuna and Karna were his most notable students.

[Turtle]

I think much of the difference in perception is because of cultures. In Indian culture there are two different words describing a teacher; the first one is Adhyapak- person who help/guides in the studies (Adhyan) much the same as the popular western culture; and second is Guru, a person who is a master of particular kind of knowledge and has devoted his life towards transmitting that knowledge to the seeker. Examples of illustrious Gurus are Guru Dronacharya of Mahabharata fame, who taught archery to the princes; Arjuna and Karna were his most notable students.

 

I love stories of Arjuna! Very colorful imagery. Just so, and by your clarification, I am a swimming Adhyapak and a Katabatak Guru. :) Seek, and you shall find. Tea Charlie?:cup:

[cwes99_03]

Basically you are saying that there are those hired to be teachers/tutors and those who freely give of their knowledge, wisdom, experience.

Frankly, I don't see the difference between the actions, and thus don't see a difference between them in the English language. Thus we have professional teachers and we have non-professional teachers, where a professional would be one who is institutionalized (not the white rubber wall type of institution).

 

I have been called a computer guru, because I help fix and teach others about it. Within my department they call me the MS Office guru, because I am the most experienced. However, this does not make me nor keep me from being a teacher.

 

Guru would be a type of teacher, not a separate entity.

[HydrogenBond]

A teacher is someone who imparts knowledge, understanding and/or wisdom to another. A good analogy is water. The teacher is a cup of water filled higher than that of its student. He or she tries to fill the student's cup of understanding as high as possible. Sometimes good teachers fill their student's cups to where their levels become equal. These are the proudest moment of a teacher's life.This situation requires a departure and new teachers to fill the level even higher. If one looks back, the best teachers added the most water to your cup.