A.Is

[Thor]

What are the basic flaws with concious a.i.s ?:hyper:

[Zythryn]

Could you clarify your question a bit? Do you mean flaws with what we currently call a.i.s or do you mean difficulties with creating a true a.i.?

[Turtle]

What are the basic flaws with concious a.i.s ?:cup:

 

The single basic flaw is that they do not yet demonstrably exist. :cup:

[Thor]

well, yeah!

basically i'm asking, what are the general, theoretical flaws.

[Tormod]

I don't think there are any theoretical flaws, because AI is a concept, not a theory. There are however issues which are relevant to the topic of AI, for example that we do not know how consciousness arises, nor what "intelligence" really is. Also, the definition of "artificial" in this context becomes interesting - if something does gain intelligence, is this intelligence artificial or is it a living being? Where do we draw that line?

[Thor]

hmmm, interesting

[max4236]

Limitations in the complexity and interaction in real time? I think eventually there won't be a distinction between humans born the biological way here and the humans born in a vast computer matrix or contrusted universe. Both humans might one day be able to travel from one realm to the other interchangeably. Have children together even. I believe it's possible, the technology just isn't here yet. It might be the only way to keeping humanity from going extinct or becoming too crowded on one planet. I don't think they'll feel it's an artificial type of life any more than it is here. Our environments are rather artificial too. (nevermind about Kristen..)

[alexander]

aah, so this post is about having a crush on one of your sims... WTF!!?

 

The major "flaw", if you can call it that, of the concept is that it is not yet really defined or outlined. How do you know what intelligence is, what is conciousness and how does it come to be? What form of information does your brain keep? All leads you to what makes you, you and how do we model that on a different architecture! Do we emulate the brain, or what we think?

[Thor]

what you would need to do would be to create a perfect copy of a human brain by pulsing an electric pulse through all the neaural pathways, tracking these, and burning them onto a memory chip.

this would kill the brain though, unless the host of the brain was already dead, or the brain was a clone!

[InfiniteNow]

what you would need to do would be to create a perfect copy of a human brain by pulsing an electric pulse through all the neaural pathways, tracking these, and burning them onto a memory chip.

this would kill the brain though, unless the host of the brain was already dead, or the brain was a clone!

Are you suggesting that consciousness and intelligence is only an electrical signal through the brain?

 

The signals themselves are dynamic, ever changing, and evolving contingent on the environment, which is part of the difficulty in creating it artificially. Well, that and we can't really define consciousness nor intelligence. :beer:

[Jay-qu]

Thor what you describe sounds like how they make AI in the halo series..

 

I think one of the major problems with it would be testing it. How can we know if it has true understanding, or is only working on brute processing power (can they even have understanding is a whole nother question..). There are already programs that can beat any human in chess, but this is only because they can look ahead at every possible outcome of the game and choose accordingly - does this make them smart? yes, no, maybe :beer: they do it in the stupidest way, by pure brute force. They have no understanding of the game, but still they are better at it than any human.

[TheFaithfulStone]

Well, that and we can't really define consciousness nor intelligence.

 

Intelligence is like porn - you can't define it, but you'll know it when you see it.

 

TFS

[alexander]

Thor that would not work, as that will only simulate one human brain, each brain is different from another, aside from min areas, neural pathways are different for different people as they are created and destroyed with nfluences of knowledge and experiences and genetics...

 

actually nor will it simulate intelligence, it will simulate a brain, not very well, but it will, and you would need years and years of data to be even close to figure out a remote pattern as the brain changes and evolves over time...