Knot Tying

[Turtle]

Here come da poll...here come da poll...:) Vote your knot knowledge quantitatively in the poll, and post you knot knowledge trivia here in the associate thread the poll is tied to. Bow-lieve it or Knot!:)

[Turtle]

Whew!!! After I posted the thread I got to thinking I misspelled tying!!! :) Fortunately I speelled it kurect. :cocktail:

 

So I voted 10 or more and went over in my head which knots I felt I knew and which knots not. Heres my list of 10:

square knot

granny knot

sheet bend

clove hitch

half hitch

reef knot (also called magic knot )

hangman's knot

slip knot

bow

bowline

 

I also know how to splice and backsplice braided rope, but I didn't think that counted as knots. I wonder if the vote for one or fewer is more than faceteous.:cup: :) Feel free to post up any knots not on my list, or your own list regardless of content (or not).

[C1ay]

Overhand

Granny

Square (Reef)

Bowline

French Bowline

Various sheepshanks

Figure of eight

Tautline hitch

Dolly or trucker's hitch

Clove Hitch

Various lashings

Stevedore

Surgeon's knot

Bloodknot

Clinch knot

Diamond knot

Elongated diamond knot

Various turk's heads

Matthew walker knot

Various monkey fists

Sheet bend

Various carrick bends

Timber hitch

Bowstring knot

Artillery knot

Various hangmans

Half hitch

Many more.....

 

I can also tie quite a number of splices, backsplices and whippings; braid with any number of strands in a variety of flat, square and round braids. I am also fond of the mathematics of knots and knotting...

 

I also recommend this knot tying game for youngsters. It has a stack of cards with various knots on them. A player draws a card and turns it over and the first player to finish that knot gets a point and draws the next card. More kids really should learn how to tie knots so they're not trying to secure their belongings to the moving truck with an assortment of slipknots and granny hitches :cocktail:

[Tormod]

Sheesh...I know about 4 knots but I couldn't name them if my life depended upon it. :sad:

[Turtle]

Many more.....

 

I can also tie quite a number of splices, backsplices and whippings; braid with any number of strands in a variety of flat, square and round braids. I am also fond of the mathematics of knots and knotting...

 

I also recommend this knot tying game for youngsters. It has a stack of cards with various knots on them. A player draws a card and turns it over and the first player to finish that knot gets a point and draws the next card. More kids really should learn how to tie knots so they're not trying to secure their belongings to the moving truck with an assortment of slipknots and granny hitches :D

 

I received that game as a gift C1ay; I only now wish I had bothered to play it more! It even comes with short sections of cord for practice. Now I must try and find it and review before I'm sentenced to 50 lashes.:sad: Have you ever tried doing any plaiting? By all means post up anything that you find particularly interesting on the topology, as you have me hanging by a thread. :bwa:

Sheesh...I know about 4 knots but I couldn't name them if my life depended upon it.

Quick T, say bow! :cry:

[Boerseun]

Once a knot's gotta name, it's not a knot, not?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

IT'S A NAVAL FASHION STATEMENT!!!

 

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On a more serious note, I was in the navy. For a Grand Total of One Week.

So I'm not one to speak - but I make a killer bowtie, however...:)

[C1ay]

Have you ever tried doing any plaiting?

I have always considered the term plaiting synonymous with braiding? Are you asking about something other than braiding?

[Turtle]

I have always considered the term plaiting synonymous with braiding? Are you asking about something other than braiding?

 

I thought I was, but apparently not. Is it proper to differentiate a plait as a flat braid?:)

PS I believe plaits use an even number of strands wheras braids use odd numbers?:eek:

[Turtle]

I also recommend this knot tying game for youngsters. It has a stack of cards with various knots on them. A player draws a card and turns it over and the first player to finish that knot gets a point and draws the next card. More kids really should learn how to tie knots so they're not trying to secure their belongings to the moving truck with an assortment of slipknots and granny hitches :surprise:

I found mine! First thing I notice is the advert you link to says manufactured by Ramco, and my box says manufactured by Marco on the outside but Ramco on the cards. :eek: ; box reads ages 8 to adult.

The kit includes 2 pieces of cord (it comes with one and says cut it in half), 2 toggles, and in my case 49 cards. One of these have advertising for religious games, one has instructions, and one lists the reduction in breaking strength of a rope for different types of knots.

PS I listed sheep shank but on reviewing the cards I see that's wrong :) and it's the sheet bend I know. Minus 4 points for me.:surprise: I misapplied miller's knot too. It's knot in the cards, so minus 8 and 2 lashes. ;) :rolleyes:

[Turtle]

I am fit to be tied over all the errors I now find I have made. :surprise: :) ;) I found a scout site in the UK with animations and have it linked below. In looking it over I see that a square knot and a reef knot are the same knot so my list is wrong is wrong...again...prolly still!:rolleyes: Be sure to check out the thief knot there to see how it differs from the reef/square knot. Avast there land lubbers.:eek:

http://www.42brghtn.mistral.co.uk/knots/42ktmenu.html

[Tormod]

Quick T, say bow! :hihi:

 

Okay, 5! :)

[learnin to learn]

Square

Bowline

Various sheepshanks

Figure eight

trucker's hitch

Clove Hitch

Surgeon's knot

Cinch knot

Diamond knot

Matthew walker knot

Sheet bend

Bowstring knot

hangman knot

Half hitch

john wayne "bank robber" knot

rein knot

 

I learned most of my knots out on the farms in AL.

[C1ay]

I listed sheep shank but on reviewing the cards I see that's wrong :naughty: and it's the sheet bend I know.

Sheepshanks are used to shorten a rope temporarily and a sheet bend is used to join 2 ropes, particularly lines of different sizes.

[Turtle]

Sheepshanks are used to shorten a rope temporarily and a sheet bend is used to join 2 ropes, particularly lines of different sizes.

 

Roger :hyper: :hihi: ;) :hyper: It seems many of these knots have different names and many of the names have different knots. :naughty:

[pgrmdave]

I don't know too many. I used to know more when I was in Scouts, but it's been eight years or so since I used them, so I don't remember a bunch of them.

[TheBigDog]

My dad is the knot guy in my family. I never learned them, and it is a skill I wish I had.

 

C1ay, you mentioned the mathmatics of knots. I remember an article on knots in PopularMechanics that I began reading in the early 90's some time, that I never managed to find again and complete. It was a fascinating write up on the mathmatics of knots, complete with illistrations. It talked about how a knot is determined primarily by the number of times that the rope crosses itself. But the interesting part of the article (the part I never got to because I never found the magazine again!) was supposed to be how the patterns in knots (number of crosses) had been found to parallel various other phenomena. And the author hinted at a parallel with human brain function. But I never read the rest of the article! Might you be familiar with any of that?

 

Bill

[C1ay]

In mathematics, a knot is defined as a closed, non-self-intersecting curve that is embedded in three dimensions and cannot be untangled to produce a simple loop (i.e., the unknot). While in common usage, knots can be tied in string and rope such that one or more strands are left open on either side of the knot, the mathematical theory of knots terms an object of this type a "braid" rather than a knot. To a mathematician, an object is a knot only if its free ends are attached in some way so that the resulting structure consists of a single looped strand.

 

A knot can be generalized to a link, which is simply a knotted collection of one or more closed strands.

 

The study of knots and their properties is known as knot theory. Knot theory was given its first impetus when Lord Kelvin Eric Weisstein's World of Biography proposed a theory that atoms were vortex loops, with different chemical elements consisting of different knotted configurations (Thompson 1867). P. G. Tait Eric Weisstein's World of Biography then cataloged possible knots by trial and error. Much progress has been made in the intervening years.

 

More at Knot....

 

I seem to remember reading somewhere about topologically optimized representation of information in the brain and the application of knot theory, perhaps in the article you suggested.