Dyothelite Posted November 8, 2006 Author Report Posted November 8, 2006 yeah ur right the catholic church is ****ed up, I'm not catholic. but bear with me. this is how I usually say it: "99% of religion is garbage, but don't let that divert u from the 1% that is truth." Seriously. Quote
Southtown Posted November 8, 2006 Report Posted November 8, 2006 This bears on the issue of why even bother? :shrug: It's akin to continuously knocking your head on a wall on the pretense you may actually go through it by some unknown mechanism (like quantum flunctuation) inspite of all evidence to the contrary. Superstition and irrationality is all I see in it on a personal level, and claims that it is true because 'it is written' stemming from individuals bent on profitting on the ignorance of others.:doh: :doh: :doh: & :doh:I've never been a church goer. I went a few times. It's just creepy... Being quiet and ****. Walked out of one that was... ah "TBN-like", talking about "prosperity". I read and research on my own. That's the way it should be really. It's a lot like being a historian, researching dead culture's beliefs and what-not. Quote
Turtle Posted November 8, 2006 Report Posted November 8, 2006 I've never been a church goer. I went a few times. It's just creepy... Being quiet and ****. Walked out of one that was... ah "TBN-like", talking about "prosperity". I read and research on my own. That's the way it should be really. It's a lot like being a historian, researching dead culture's beliefs and what-not. Yep...creepy it is. Moreover, other than the qualification that "it" that I bolded conotes studying religious texts, I might have written the rest myself, just as you have it. Fact is, that is the source of my best amunition to blast away at the irrational supersticious aspects so carefully crafted therin. Quite the bags of tricks; I use some of them myself. Saw a lady in half and she lives! Not so impressive once you see the trick explained. Nail a guy to a cross and he lives! Not so impressive once you've seen a lady sawed in half, and live. In Exodous, the Pharoh's magicians did all the same tricks as Moses (who they trained) until he did a couple new ones he came up with on his own. Bet Moses would love David Blaine's levitation bit. :shrug: Interesting history for sure. PS Have any of you seen the new ScienceChannel (or maybe History Channel) series called The Naked Archaeologist ? The dude that does the series did a sweeeet job verifying a historical record of a real Exodous, and ties the events to the eruption of Santorini. Must see TV.PS The show runs On History Channel International; I can't find the exact episode on Exodus.http://www.historyinternational.com/global/listings/listings.jsp?NetwCode=HCII stipulate that this bit of discourse is relative to the topic of the thread because it exemplifies the scientific method properly as an instrument of exegesis free of the superstitious bias, wheras any attempt to prove God is an improper application of the scientific method. Quote
Southtown Posted November 8, 2006 Report Posted November 8, 2006 I've seen some pretty interesting stuff myself. Quote
Turtle Posted November 8, 2006 Report Posted November 8, 2006 I've seen some pretty interesting stuff myself.There is no spoon.Feeed me...I have a fork. :phones: Quote
Dyothelite Posted November 9, 2006 Author Report Posted November 9, 2006 Ok so I've decided to concede I was wrong about 3-dimensional interconnectedness. However, I have decided to pursue super string theory, and multi dimensional geometry to find my answer. I starting to feel like maybe it is at the hyper-dimensional level that all things become One (so to speak). My first two texts were on Qabalah, maybe a 10-dimensional view of the universe? Who knows but if you'd like to keep in touch feel free......I'm outPeaceOne Quote
Turtle Posted November 9, 2006 Report Posted November 9, 2006 Ok so I've decided to concede I was wrong about 3-dimensional interconnectedness. However, I have decided to pursue super string theory, and multi dimensional geometry to find my answer. I starting to feel like maybe it is at the hyper-dimensional level that all things become One (so to speak). My first two texts were on Qabalah, maybe a 10-dimensional view of the universe? Who knows but if you'd like to keep in touch feel free......I'm outPeaceOne For an interesting and rigorously geometric view with a twist of theo-philosophic musing, I recommend Buckminster Fuller's Synergetics: Explorations in the Geometry of Thinking Feel free to view and participate in a discussion on it here at Hypography.http://hypography.com/forums/watercooler/3398-buckminster-fuller.html Quote
Dyothelite Posted November 9, 2006 Author Report Posted November 9, 2006 Hey Turtle, Before I jump in can you give me a brief summary? Quote
Turtle Posted November 9, 2006 Report Posted November 9, 2006 Hey Turtle, Before I jump in can you give me a brief summary? I wish! I mean, I'll try, but the work I referenced is written tetrahedrally and eludes a cubic summary. He divides space not on a cubic lattice, where cubes tile space and have indices x,y,z, but on a tetrahedral lattice where tetrahedrons tile space (the same space mind you). I have no fuller specifics of the method or consequences, but they are rigorously set out in the book. Using this geometry he accomodates everything from our senses, to God, to life after death, etc. ad nauseum. Warning! It is not for the faint of heart. :phones: Quote
Dyothelite Posted November 9, 2006 Author Report Posted November 9, 2006 Yeah man I think I'd like that. I've always been into multi-dimensional geometry. Qabalah itself is such a geometry, but I think I'm unravelling my sanity through all this. As a far as religion goes I keep resting my head in the idea of one-ness, but my logic won't let my intuition be the guiding factor... I have to get it... ya know? I wish I could just sit and have a beer with you guys and talk rather than type all this stuff, but hey atleast I have some outlet to discuss this stuff. I'll research this topic before I embarrass myself, but you'll see me soon probably. Quote
Turtle Posted November 9, 2006 Report Posted November 9, 2006 Yeah man I think I'd like that. I've always been into multi-dimensional geometry. Qabalah itself is such a geometry, but I think I'm unravelling my sanity through all this. As a far as religion goes I keep resting my head in the idea of one-ness, but my logic won't let my intuition be the guiding factor... I have to get it... ya know? I wish I could just sit and have a beer with you guys and talk rather than type all this stuff, but hey atleast I have some outlet to discuss this stuff. I'll research this topic before I embarrass myself, but you'll see me soon probably.:phones: Then we have the geometry in the Vedas, and geometries not written per se as in the Anasazi ruins, Stonehenge, and the other astronomical megalithic sites found throughout the world.So much to learn, so much to drink, so little time. :) Quote
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