Munch12 Posted September 9 Report Posted September 9 . This may be a bit off-topic, but I want to see what you guys think. I have been studying the piezo-electric effect and its ability to create negative ions ever since my grandson and I found a stack of quartz rocks in our canyon in southern Colorado. I can't imagine a way that these rocks just fell of the cliff and ended up like this, or a flood put them there, they are the only rocks down in the canyon, and they face the valley. There is a spring-fed stream next to them, and we have found pottery shards and arrowheads. If negative ions and "disturbed" water add to a good feeling, then I feel that the first peoples to find this spring long ago raised generations there, why not? The quartz crystal must have been the "magic" that the ancient peoples understood and built "machines" like the pyramids that utilized this effect. The workers that built such things must have been well fed and "whistled while they worked". "Colorado Forest Beings" is such an interesting site in relation to this. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cyvc4h08tCY&t=153s Quote
Moontanman Posted September 10 Report Posted September 10 Did you consider they might be part of a glacial deposit? OceanBreeze 1 Quote
OceanBreeze Posted September 17 Report Posted September 17 On 9/10/2024 at 7:50 AM, Moontanman said: Did you consider they might be part of a glacial deposit? That’s the most logical, and certainly correct explanation. Such rock formations are called glacial erratics. They are very common in Colorodo, especially near the town of Red Cliff. There is no magical piezo-electric, negative ion magic involved, although the piezo-electric effect is very interesting and deserves a thread of its own. Returning to the subject of glacial erratics: Curious Nature Rocks Tell Tales As Old As Time "One of the most prominent features near the town of Red Cliff are the red cliffs. This vibrant hue is due to the quartzite rocks in the cliff faces containing hematite. Specifically, it’s the oxidation reaction of the iron found in the grains of hematite that becomes rust when exposed to oxygen which turns the rocks red. Quartzite itself is a hard metamorphic rock that does not weather easily. Quartzite ridges are often exposed with barely any vegetation because it is difficult for the roots to dig into the hard and nutrient-poor substrate. Another neat geological phenomenon to keep an eye out for near Red Cliff are glacial erratics. These are rocks that were moved from one place to another by a glacier. They can range from the size of pebbles to giant boulders and the lithology, the type of rock, of glacial erratics are different from the bedrock of its landing site. This means that based on the lithology of some of the erratics, it is possible to determine from where, when, and the direction the glacier flowed. Glacial erratics often bare signs of their journey with striations or scratches, rounded edges and polished faces." Moontanman 1 Quote
alexander Posted October 29 Report Posted October 29 On 9/9/2024 at 12:09 PM, Munch12 said: The quartz crystal must have been the "magic" that the ancient peoples understood and built "machines" like the pyramids that utilized this effect. The workers that built such things must have been well fed and "whistled while they worked". First of all, a pyramid is not a machine, a machine is a physical system that uses power to apply forces and control movement to perform an action, and to date, I don't believe there has been a single moving part of a pyramid found, and no action has been described as performed by a pyramid. Pyramids are not made out of quartz... Pyramids are primarily made up of limestone, a sedimentary rock made up, primarily of calcium carbonate, quartz, by comparison, is silicon dioxide. The solubility of quartz in water, by the way, is something like 6ppm, what effect that had on pyramid builders is very not clear and not shown. I would, in fact, argue that the fact that pyramid builders were better fed than general population would have a far greater effect on workers whistling while they work than the added 6ppm of Silica in quartz water. Waterfalls and shower heads are far better negative ion generators than quartz in water, Lenard effect. Besides, if we look at a more systematic study of negative ions effect on health, we find that: Quote Some studies have suggested that NAIs had multiple health benefits on humans/animals, might inhibit the growth and/or kill some of microorganisms and promote plant development (Figure 3), but some of the results need to be further verified, some references might overestimate its benefits and no consistent or reliable evidence in therapeutic effects were achieved. Aha, you say, but this is water not air... Ok, the positive health effects of electrolyzed-reduced water are also not clear, even assuming some reasonable amount was made as the result of its contact with quartz... TLDR: There is no "magic" effect of quartz. Even assuming there is, there is no indication that consuming water with known "special" properties that could have been introduced by quartz has any therapeutic effect. There are no known therapeutic effects of consuming silica, and even if there are, 6ppm is quite a small amount, you would have to consume a LOT of water for any reasonable concentration. And lastly, pyramids are not machines and they are not made out of quartz. https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/0016703762900273 https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0277379123002202#bib32 https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6213340/ https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9736533/ Quote
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