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It is possible that aliens learned what signal strength produces what character in the receiver by mental telepathy. The WOW signal reads: "6EQUJ5". Now if we decode "EQU" to mean "=" and "J" to mean "successor of" we can decode the message to mean: "6 = S(5)"! This makes it more likely that the signal was deliberate.

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This could be an interesting topic for discussion if we focus on the facts, and steer clear of all the woo (and wow).
The fact is, only the amplitude of the “wow” signal was ever of any interest and was the reason for the “wow” note in the margin of the computer printout.
The numbers and Letters (6EQUJ5) are not a message of any type; they are simply artifacts of the labeling on the amplitude scale in use at the Big Ear radio telescope.
The so-called wow signal was a continuous wave CW signal, incapable of carrying any message at all.
If the amplitude scale had been labeled differently, a different set of numbers and letters would have been produced.
Another way to look at it; any CW signal, at the right frequency and amplitude, fed into the front end of the Big Ear receiver, would have produced the exact same string of 6EQUJ5 proving that this string carries no intelligible information other than information about the frequency and amplitude of the CW signal.
It is the signal’s amplitude that provoked the “wow” response.; NOT the alpha-numeric string of 6EQUJ5, which has no scientific significance.
The receive signal to noise ratio was 15 dB, or in linear terms about 30 times stronger than the baseline noise floor of the Big Ear receiver.
From what I could gather, this baseline noise floor, within a 10 Khz Band width, is about -220 dBm.
Therefore, since the S/n ratio was 15 dB, the power of the received signal was about -205 dBm.


This is actually a very low received signal level; so low that most commercial satellite systems would not even be able to detect it; It would be down below the noise floor in those receiving systems. However, considering it as a possible signal of extra – terrestrial origins, in that context it is an extraordinarily high level s/n ratio.


What interests me is to work the signal back to its source and determine how high the transmit power would need to be in order to send such a signal to Earth. I searched for such a reverse-engineering calculation, with no success.


Any electromagnetic radiation moving through free space spreads out according to the inverse square law. This means the signal has an effective Path Loss, in dB, calculated as follows:
LP(dB) = 32.4 + 20 Log F (Mhz) + 20 Log Distance (km)
We know F to be 1420 Mhz (the line freq of hydrogen)
Now we need to know the distance the signal traveled.


Some astrophysicists have determined that the signal originated in the Sagittarius Cluster (Messier 22) which is at a distance of approximately 10,600 light-years from Earth.
The above formula for Path Loss uses kilometers as the unit of distance; 10,600 lyr = 1E17 km.
LP(dB) = 32.4 + 20 Log 1420 Mhz + 20 Log 1E17 km = 32.4 + 63 + 340 = 435.4 dB
Needless to say, but I will say it anyway, that is a Lot of path loss!


Now we need to see just how powerful a signal would need to be at the source, in order to produce a receive signal level of -205 dBm on Earth (using the Big Ear antenna).
That is easy, we take the received signal level of -205 dBm and add 435.4 dB to get +230.4 dBm which is the transmitted power.
How much is that in Watts? I get 0.1 Sextillion Watts! That is, 0.1E21 Watts.
That is roughly100,000 times greater than the total energy output of the Earth and more than one-millionth the total energy output of the Sun!
But it is even more impressive when you consider the Sun radiates energy in the entire electromagnetic spectrum and in all directions at once.
This signal had approximately one-millionth the total energy of the Sun contained in a narrow 10 Khz bandwidth, in a single direction in space!
Could any advanced civilization accomplish that feat?


Consider that the total energy produced by us Earthlings is a mere 18 terawatts, (18E12 Watts)
The most powerful signal that we Earthlings have ever transmitted into space was a paltry 1 Megawatt!
Does it seem reasonable that an alien civilization could build a transmitter that can handle Power on the order of 10E21 Watts while we can only manage 10E6 Watts?
To many physicists, and this humble Marine Engineer, it does Not seem possible and so we have looked for some natural phenomena such a passing comet and an explosion in a cloud of hydrogen gas. But there is a fatal flaw with these theories in the way the signal seemed to be moving with the background stars, indicating it was coming from the Sagittarius Cluster.

Well, maybe. Color me skeptical. Although I am a Marine Engineer, I do have extensive experience with Satellite ground stations, both shipboard and on land. I do know that sometimes the Local oscillator chain can become unstable and generate spurious signals that look exactly like signals coming from an external source. These spurious signals can pop into existence once, and never repeat again, exactly the same as the “wow” signal, which has never been duplicated.
Since a spurious signal will stay with the antenna wherever it moves, it will appear to be moving with the background stars.


Now, consider the fact that Congress had recently voted to cut the funding to the Big Ear Project, and this signal suddenly pops into existence, with someone uncharacteristically labeling it “WOW” and maybe you will start to see the picture emerge of an attempt to justify continued funding of the project, based on this breakthrough detection. Of course, I don’t know that is what happened, but that is the way it looks to me and I don’t expect anyone to come forward now and admit to attempting to defraud the US Govt!


What I do know is this; if it was I who was examining those computer printouts and I came across the same signal signature, I would have written “probably a spurious” in the margin, and nobody would have ever heard of any “WOW” signal.


Just my opinion, of course.


Note: I wrote this up rather quickly so I expect there are many typos , I ask the reader to please excuse them. I will come back to this and try to correct the errors later, time permitting.

 

  • 1 month later...
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On 10/25/2024 at 6:39 PM, Talanum46 said:

Wat is the chance that a random signal will contain "EQU"?

 

As explained to you, the WoW signal was an unmodulated CW signal and contained no information at all.

 

On 10/25/2024 at 6:39 PM, Talanum46 said:

There are evidence that aliens are telepathic, that plus my own experience.

Interesting. Please supply support for your claim that "aliens are telepathic" . While you are at it, provide evidence there ARE aliens.

I am sure readers would also like to hear about your "own experience."

 

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At the end of a movie, there was a beep, and in this beep was apparently encoded a message by aliens: it loaded a lot of information into my mind. After that I could contact an Alien female: she showed me her face. Apparently the message contained information enabling us to build a machine, apparently for communication purposes. They abducted me while I was sitting in front of others and they put me back in time back where I was.

For the claim that Aliens are telepathic there are books written like the one about Betty and Barny Hills abduction and other abduction accounts.

There are photos of Aliens and an dead Alien body at: video removed

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14 hours ago, Talanum46 said:

At the end of a movie, there was a beep, and in this beep was apparently encoded a message by aliens: it loaded a lot of information into my mind. After that I could contact an Alien female: she showed me her face. Apparently the message contained information enabling us to build a machine, apparently for communication purposes. They abducted me while I was sitting in front of others and they put me back in time back where I was.

For some reason that I can’t explain, this makes me very sad.

I do have one additional question, if you don’t mind?

When you post a message on this forum, do you feel that the message is totally representative of your own thoughts, or do you feel that an alien presence is influencing what you write and by extension, what you think?

I ask this in all sincerity, so that I understand you better.

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No the Aliens does not affect me except that I felt honored. It represents my own thoughts. Obviously I wouldn't have had the thoughts if the Aliens didn't interact with me but they have no mind-control after the fact on me, except that they blocked my memories of what happened when I was abducted but this happened at the time. They also tell me not to recall certain happenings.

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@Talanum46 Youtube videos are not evidence or proof of anything, if you post a video make sure it's relevant and include a synopsis of the video so members won't have to watch it. The videos you have provided are well known as nonsense. Even in this forum the rules still apply!

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