Why the gas planets move by rotating

[Diamonds]

Does the planet actually rotate around its axis and moves ahead in its orbit just the same amount of kilometers.

It is easy to count when we know velocity of the planet in its orbit = a, and the velocity it rotates around its axis = b.  We just divide a / b. 

It seems like the rocky planets and the gas planets move using different kind of method.  The rocky planets move so fast like they were shot by a gun or a Cannon. But gas planets really rotate and move almost the same amount of kilometers. They actually do not move ahead at all but they just rotate around their axis.

 

Mercury a = 47, 87 / b = 0.0030244 that is 15 827. 446 so It rotates one kilometer and at the same time moves ahead 15 827.446 kilometers

Venus a = 35.02 / b = 0.00181 that is 19 341.195

Earth a = 29.8 / b = 0.465013 that is 64.084

Mars a= 24.077 / b = 0.2406 that is 100.035

Jupiter a = 13.069 / b = 12.58 that is 1.0389

Saturn a = 9.67 / b = 9.87 that is 0.979493

Uranus a = 6.83 / b = 2.588 that is 2.641

Neptune a = 5.47 / b = 2.685 that is 2.040

Pluto a = 4.749 / b = 0.0134 that is 352.055

Ceres a = 17.882 / b = 0.093 that is 191.708

Vesta a = 19.34 / b = 0.093 that is 206.65

Pallas a = 17.65 / b = 0.0636 that is 277.289

So for instance Jupiter when rotates 1 km at the same time moves ahead 1.0389 km. So It moves ahead by rotating?

 

[Vmedvil]

On 2/17/2025 at 2:32 PM, Diamonds said:

Does the planet actually rotate around its axis and moves ahead in its orbit just the same amount of kilometers.

It is easy to count when we know velocity of the planet in its orbit = a, and the velocity it rotates around its axis = b.  We just divide a / b. 

It seems like the rocky planets and the gas planets move using different kind of method.  The rocky planets move so fast like they were shot by a gun or a Cannon. But gas planets really rotate and move almost the same amount of kilometers. They actually do not move ahead at all but they just rotate around their axis.

 

Mercury a = 47, 87 / b = 0.0030244 that is 15 827. 446 so It rotates one kilometer and at the same time moves ahead 15 827.446 kilometers

Venus a = 35.02 / b = 0.00181 that is 19 341.195

Earth a = 29.8 / b = 0.465013 that is 64.084

Mars a= 24.077 / b = 0.2406 that is 100.035

Jupiter a = 13.069 / b = 12.58 that is 1.0389

Saturn a = 9.67 / b = 9.87 that is 0.979493

Uranus a = 6.83 / b = 2.588 that is 2.641

Neptune a = 5.47 / b = 2.685 that is 2.040

Pluto a = 4.749 / b = 0.0134 that is 352.055

Ceres a = 17.882 / b = 0.093 that is 191.708

Vesta a = 19.34 / b = 0.093 that is 206.65

Pallas a = 17.65 / b = 0.0636 that is 277.289

So for instance Jupiter when rotates 1 km at the same time moves ahead 1.0389 km. So It moves ahead by rotating?

 

This is interesting to me show me how you derived your answers and what equations were used.

[Moontanman]

On 2/17/2025 at 2:32 PM, Diamonds said:

Does the planet actually rotate around its axis and moves ahead in its orbit just the same amount of kilometers.

It is easy to count when we know velocity of the planet in its orbit = a, and the velocity it rotates around its axis = b.  We just divide a / b. 

It seems like the rocky planets and the gas planets move using different kind of method.  The rocky planets move so fast like they were shot by a gun or a Cannon. But gas planets really rotate and move almost the same amount of kilometers. They actually do not move ahead at all but they just rotate around their axis.

 

Mercury a = 47, 87 / b = 0.0030244 that is 15 827. 446 so It rotates one kilometer and at the same time moves ahead 15 827.446 kilometers

Venus a = 35.02 / b = 0.00181 that is 19 341.195

Earth a = 29.8 / b = 0.465013 that is 64.084

Mars a= 24.077 / b = 0.2406 that is 100.035

Jupiter a = 13.069 / b = 12.58 that is 1.0389

Saturn a = 9.67 / b = 9.87 that is 0.979493

Uranus a = 6.83 / b = 2.588 that is 2.641

Neptune a = 5.47 / b = 2.685 that is 2.040

Pluto a = 4.749 / b = 0.0134 that is 352.055

Ceres a = 17.882 / b = 0.093 that is 191.708

Vesta a = 19.34 / b = 0.093 that is 206.65

Pallas a = 17.65 / b = 0.0636 that is 277.289

So for instance Jupiter when rotates 1 km at the same time moves ahead 1.0389 km. So It moves ahead by rotating?

 

I have some doubt that rotation contributes to forward motion in Jupiter's orbit, I would have to see evidence of a mechanism for this. 

[Diamonds]

At first I did not know easy way how to count this. So I used other simple way. 

1. Orbital speed 13.0697 km/sec multiplied by orbital period 11.862 years = 374335776 seconds and we get lenght of the orbit = 4 892 456 291 km. So it takes 11.862 years to go around the sun. 

2. The circumference of Jupiter 2pi x r = 449112.744 km. 

3. In one rotation period = 9.9258 h = 35730 seconds Jupiter rotates 449112.744 km. 

4. Because there are 31557600 seconds in one year we divide 31557600 / 35730 = 883.224 that is how many times in one year Jupiter rotates around it axis. 

5. But its orbital period is 11.862 years so we multiply 883.224 x 11.862 = 10476.80 that is how many times Jupiter rotates in 11.862 years and during that time it moves in its orbit 4 892 456 291 km. 

6. Because Jupiters circumference is 449112.744 km we multiply that by 10476.80 = 4 705 264 396 that is how many kilometers Jupiter rotates around its axis in 11.862 years. 

7. Then we just divide 4 892 456 291 / 4 705 264 396 = 1. 03978

So Jupiter moves in its orbit 1.03978 km and at the same time rotates around its axis 1.0000 km. So it almost floats in the space just keep spinning around its axis. 

This is how I first calculated this problem but later I noticed that the same result is given by dividing 

Orbital speed / rotation velocity

And it is very simple in that way. 

 

 

 

[Diamonds]

Because the Milky Way Galaxy is mainly almost all Gas too I have tried to calculate how it rotates around and moves ahead. Is It just the same : one kilometer around its axis and one kilometer ahead in the space. 

I have used an estimated time when Milky Way and Andromeda collide too and it seems like : One kilometer ahead = one kilometer around. 

It is kind of strange how gas planets and galaxies float through space just by spinning around.