Vmedvil Posted March 6 Report Posted March 6 (edited) This is an informational piece about bringing a dead pet back to life using cloning and how a UK clinic is doing this, read more at Bring Your Beloved Pet Back To Life: How A UK Clinic Is Using Animal Cloning Would you have your pet cloned if it died to bring it back from the dead or what are your thoughts about this? Edited March 6 by Vmedvil Quote
Moontanman Posted March 7 Report Posted March 7 How is this in any way bringing a dead pet back to life? Quote
Vmedvil Posted March 8 Author Report Posted March 8 (edited) 11 hours ago, Moontanman said: How is this in any way bringing a dead pet back to life? Well, when the pet is still living you take a sample of its DNA then after it dies you keep the sample of its DNA then make a cloned copy of your pet from the DNA after it has died. Therefore, that cloned copy is a "resurrected" copy of the pet made from the original pet's DNA. While this doesn't copy the "mind data" of the pet it does copy the body of the pet, but because the brain activity is different than the original it may have a different personality then the original pet as the mind of the pet is not copied in the cloning process, however it is a copy of the body, the cloned pet or "resurrected" copy of the pet being physically and biochemically the same as the original pet you had. "Yes, cloning an organism after its death is possible, but only if a viable tissue sample is preserved shortly after the animal dies, allowing scientists to extract viable cells for the cloning process; this is often referred to as "post-mortem cloning" and requires quick tissue preservation to maintain cell viability. Key points about cloning after death: Tissue preservation: The key factor is to quickly collect and preserve a tissue sample (like skin or muscle) from the deceased organism using specialized techniques to prevent cell damage and maintain genetic integrity. Somatic Cell Nuclear Transfer (SCNT): The most common cloning method used in this scenario involves taking a nucleus from the preserved cell and transferring it into an enucleated egg cell, which is then implanted into a surrogate mother. Challenges: Even with proper tissue preservation, the success rate of cloning after death is significantly lower compared to cloning from a living organism due to potential cell damage during the post-mortem period. Examples of cloning after death: Dolly the sheep: Although Dolly was cloned from a living cell, her success demonstrated the potential of somatic cell nuclear transfer, which could be applied to post-mortem tissue. Endangered species conservation: Researchers have explored using cloning techniques on preserved tissue from extinct or endangered species to potentially bring back populations through "de-extinction". Ethical considerations: Animal welfare concerns: Cloning animals after death raises ethical concerns regarding the potential for creating animals with health issues due to the cloning process. Human cloning implications: The concept of cloning humans after death raises complex ethical and social questions and is currently prohibited in most jurisdictions. " Link = Cloning Fact Sheet Link = Dog cloning from post-mortem tissue frozen without cryoprotectant - PubMed Link = Cloned Foal Born from Postmortem-Obtained Ear Sample Refrigerated for 5 Days Before Fibroblast Isolation and Decontamination of the Infected Monolayer Culture | Cellular Reprogramming Scifi Reference link = Ghola | Dune Wiki | Fandom Personally, I would think the best way to store the DNA of the pet would be to make a bacterial plasmid to store the DNA and use the DNA repair pathways of the bacterial plasmid to keep the DNA from decaying, storing the cloned pet's DNA for longer from the usage of this process of putting the pet's DNA into a bacterial plasmid. Link = plasmid / plasmids | Learn Science at Scitable I once tried this process with human DNA in metamorphic Plasmids in early experiments with biological immortality and metamorphic plasmids. T-Cell metamorphic gel plasmid was the one with human T-cells merged with a metamorphic plasmid I talked about this experiment years ago of trying to merge human T-cells and their DNA with a metamorphic plasmid to store DNA of humans and it was stable for around 7 years within the metamorphic plasmid until the metamorphic plasmid became infected with a disease. I am sure a similar process could be used with other animal cells. The link to the experiments with about T-Cell metamorphic Gel is below. Link = T-Cell Metamorphic Gel Infected - Biology - Science Forums But all that to say, Yes, it is possible to store an animal's DNA after death to clone it after death with modern biotechnology techniques. However, with modern computer technology probably the easiest way to store it now is digitally with whole genome sequencing which wasn't the case 10 years ago as it was expensive. With modern DNA sequencing technology and how cheap it is now under 1000 dollars you can store all the DNA of the animal in a computer to make a backup that doesn't decay then reconstruct the DNA from that template to clone the animal from that digital template which is then biochemically made to be inserted into the embryo for the "resurrected copy" or Clone after death of the original animal. Link = Whole Genome Sequencing > Fact Sheets > Yale Medicine Link = Rare Disease Month Special WGS Bundle - Buy Now, Pay Later Edited March 8 by Vmedvil Quote
Moontanman Posted March 8 Report Posted March 8 (edited) Then it would not be your pet. The title of this post was "Bring your beloved pet back to life" This is simply not true, the pet might not even look like your "beloved pet" it most certainly would not be your pet brought back to life. Edited March 8 by Moontanman Quote
Vmedvil Posted March 8 Author Report Posted March 8 (edited) 19 hours ago, Moontanman said: Then it would not be your pet. The title of this post was "Bring your beloved pet back to life" This is simply not true, the pet might not even look like your "beloved pet" it most certainly would not be your pet brought back to life. While I see your logic in that it is just a copy and not the original pet and frankly, I agree that it is just a copy of the body of the pet. It is as good as technology can do in the 21st century which is to copy the animal's body via cloning after death of the original animal. Edited March 9 by Vmedvil Quote
Moontanman Posted March 9 Report Posted March 9 (edited) On 3/8/2025 at 12:47 PM, Vmedvil said: While I see your logic in that it is just a copy and not the original pet and frankly, I agree that it is just a copy of the body of the pet. It is as good as technology can do in the 21st century which is to copy the animal's body via cloning after death of the original animal. I just don't see the point of it, no different than buying a new dog IMHO. Maybe, if it was going to look just like your pet. Edited March 9 by Moontanman Quote
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