How to treat the mentally special.

[HappytheStripper]

Order your bouncy seclusion room today.:) or a theme park designed especially for the mentally disturbed.

 

I would like to order a bouncy seclusion room thanks .. and one theme park.. for the mentally and emotionally challenged.. then would you please send them to..

 

Ashley @ Cinderellas

70B Guyton Street

Wanganui

New Zealand

 

Thanks .. By the way do you take visa..??

 

Ashley

[TheFaithfulStone]

Thanks .. By the way do you take visa..??

 

:)

 

Everything that has came with the Bipolar package has been advantageous to me and my friends.

 

And therefore is advantageous to everyone else as well?

 

TFS

[Buffy]

Everything that has came with the Bipolar package has been advantageous to me and my friends. I won't ever get depressed, want to know why? I am happy, I live a good life; Even the DSM-IV says depression is not needed to be Bipolar, because you're switching from normal to manic, two poles.

Important words there: "not needed"...means "could be accompanied by"...

 

You are quite lucky. I have a good friend whose son is bipolar: He's attacked her with a knife twice, and its a good thing she has martial arts experience.

 

While personal experience is valuable, it is not valid to extrapolate that experience to everyone. It certainly does not justify that condescending 'tude.

 

A little knowledge,

Buffy

[Fatstep]

I didn't say for everyone, I said most of the time; 68% of the time it's only mania.

Learn not to read between the lines.

[pgrmdave]

That sounds quite high. While I don't doubt the veracity of your claim that you were told that, I am going to do my own research to see if that number is backed up by hard scientific studies. I'll be back later tonight with my findings.

[Chacmool]

Do you have Bipolar disorder? I didn't think so. You have no clue about it except what you are told. Speaking from experience, and from knowing others with Bipolar aside from myself, it is not a disease, nor is it a bad syndrome. Everything that has came with the Bipolar package has been advantageous to me and my friends.

As a matter of fact, I have been suffering from bipolar disorder almost all my life. I have been on medication for the last five years, and still it is a battle. So I also speak from experience.

I won't ever get depressed, want to know why?

I am happy, I live a good life; Even the DSM-IV says depression is not needed to be Bipolar, because you're switching from normal to manic, two poles.

 

Also, I am in control when I am manic. I don't go crazy and buy Los Angeles or have sex with 300 women in one night, I am just hyper, I don't sleep, I work out much more, I even act nicer to people I do not like, I think faster and get work done sooner, I don't eat as much, and I have fun.

 

If you had no sense of mania, would you consider that a bad thing to have?

I know exactly what mania is, and I think you might overestimate your charm when you're manic. And if you're so happy and live such a good life, why do you feel the need to come here with your aggressive, arrogant and mean attitude?

[Chacmool]

Do you have Bipolar disorder? I didn't think so. You have no clue about it except what you are told. Speaking from experience, and from knowing others with Bipolar aside from myself, it is not a disease, nor is it a bad syndrome. Everything that has came with the Bipolar package has been advantageous to me and my friends.

As a matter of fact, I have been suffering from bipolar disorder almost all my life. I have been on medication for the last five years, and still it is a battle. So I also speak from experience.

I won't ever get depressed, want to know why?

I am happy, I live a good life; Even the DSM-IV says depression is not needed to be Bipolar, because you're switching from normal to manic, two poles.

 

Also, I am in control when I am manic. I don't go crazy and buy Los Angeles or have sex with 300 women in one night, I am just hyper, I don't sleep, I work out much more, I even act nicer to people I do not like, I think faster and get work done sooner, I don't eat as much, and I have fun.

 

If you had no sense of mania, would you consider that a bad thing to have?

I know exactly what mania is, and I think you might overestimate your charm when you're manic. And if you're so happy and live such a good life, why do you feel the need to come here with your aggressive, arrogant and mean attitude?

[Fatstep]

As a matter of fact, I have been suffering from bipolar disorder almost all my life. I have been on medication for the last five years, and still it is a battle. So I also speak from experience.

 

I know exactly what mania is, and I think you might overestimate your charm when you're manic. And if you're so happy and live such a good life, why do you feel the need to come here with your aggressive, arrogant and mean attitude?

 

It's not arrogant, It's called being blunt.

 

And maybe I'm special, but I have been told by friends that I am funner to be around when I am going into a manic episode and during one. I also do not take medicine because I do in fact have a lot of control over it, maybe mine is extremely mild, idk.

[Fatstep]

As a matter of fact, I have been suffering from bipolar disorder almost all my life. I have been on medication for the last five years, and still it is a battle. So I also speak from experience.

 

I know exactly what mania is, and I think you might overestimate your charm when you're manic. And if you're so happy and live such a good life, why do you feel the need to come here with your aggressive, arrogant and mean attitude?

 

It's not arrogant, It's called being blunt.

 

And maybe I'm special, but I have been told by friends that I am funner to be around when I am going into a manic episode and during one. I also do not take medicine because I do in fact have a lot of control over it, maybe mine is extremely mild, idk.

[pgrmdave]

Well, after the research that I did, I can't find anything to back up a claim that most people who suffer from bipolar disorder do not go through a depressive state. I also learned much more about bipolar, including this. Some people don't go through a true 'manic' state, but a 'hypomanic' state.

 

A mild to moderate level of mania is called hypomania. Hypomania may feel good to the person who experiences it and may even be associated with good functioning and enhanced productivity.

 

This may be what you experiance, which would explain your tempered views on the subject.

 

As for the depression, there are multiple types of Bipolar. For Bipolar I, no depressive state is required for a diagnosis, but it is common to have one. For Bipolar II, a depressive state is required for diagnosis. For Cyclothymic Disorder, a depressive episode that may or may not meet the full criteria for depression is required. The forth type of bipolar is Bipolar NOS (not otherwise specified), and as such is a catch-all for bipolar that doesn't fit the other three categories. I could not find statistics detailing the percentage breakdown of how many people have the varying types, but half of them require some depression, depression is common in the third. I think that, given this information, it is reasonable to conclude that your original statement, that 68% of people who suffer from bipolar do not suffer from depressive episodes, is untrue.

 

Sources:

NIMH: Bipolar Disorder

NAMI: National Alliance on Mental Illness-The Nation's Voice on Mental Illness-Formerly National Alliance for the Mentally Ill

Bipolar Disorder

[Fatstep]

He probably said with bipolar meaning the kind I have (1), which would be true then, especially since it's not needed for diagnosis.

[InfiniteNow]

When I first went to a psychiatrist 3 years ago he said between 60 and 68% of people with Bipolar do not suffer depressive episodes.

I didn't say for everyone, I said most of the time; 68% of the time it's only mania.

Learn not to read between the lines.

He probably said with bipolar meaning the kind I have (1), which would be true then, especially since it's not needed for diagnosis.

Three posts... three very different statements. Yes, no wonder we got confused when we stopped reading between your lines, and took the words at face value. :lol:

 

 

And maybe I'm special, but I have been told by friends that I am funner to be around when I am going into a manic episode and during one.

It's sometimes funny being around a person so drunk they cannot stand up too, but I don't think that's necessarily a good thing. You sure they're laughing WITH you?

 

If you're going to be an arrogant self-righteous person who speaks bluntly, at least be consistent with your statements and speak from fact. In other words, if you're going to attack those around you, at least be right when you do so. Otherwise, one day, you're going to end up with a Fatlip...B) ...and none of us would want to see that happen. :hyper:

[Fatstep]

Three posts... three very different statements. Yes, no wonder we got confused when we stopped reading between your lines, and took the words at face value. :lol:

 

 

 

It's sometimes funny being around a person so drunk they cannot stand up too, but I don't think that's necessarily a good thing. You sure they're laughing WITH you?

 

If you're going to be an arrogant self-righteous person who speaks bluntly, at least be consistent with your statements and speak from fact. In other words, if you're going to attack those around you, at least be right when you do so. Otherwise, one day, you're going to end up with a Fatlip...B) ...and none of us would want to see that happen. :hyper:

 

No they are not very different statements; I said maybe he said for my type, that is adding on not editing, retard.

 

Also, I'm 16, I do not drink as I believe alcohol is nasty, next time try and use a good example.

[pgrmdave]

He is right, INow. While those statements are different, I don't think that fatstep is intentionally trying to confuse us, I think that the information is wrong, but I'd rather learn for myself.

 

I found this scholarly paper:

Agitated Depression in Bipolar I Disorder: Prevalence, Phenomenology, and Outcome -- Maj et al. 160 (12): 2134 -- Am J Psychiatry

 

The researchers were trying to determine the occurance of agitated depression in people who suffer from Bipolar I. From the study:

 

This study, the largest carried out as yet on agitated depression in bipolar I disorder, confirms that this condition is not at all rare, although the observed prevalence (19.5%) was somewhat lower than that reported by Spitzer et al. (5) and Koukopoulos et al. (7) (29% and 27%, respectively).

 

This means that 80.5% don't suffer from agitated depression, but that leaves normal depression to take from that smaller number. If we are to accept the 68% without depression, that means that 12.5% have normal depression. The rate of depression for the american population is 6.7% (NIMH: The Numbers Count. I still have not found any information directly relating to bipolar depression, but I am still searching.

[C1ay]

that is adding on not editing, retard.

 

You won't last long here with that type of disposition.....

[Queso]

This thread is a little ironic.

[Fatstep]

He is right, INow. While those statements are different, I don't think that fatstep is intentionally trying to confuse us, I think that the information is wrong, but I'd rather learn for myself.

 

I found this scholarly paper:

Agitated Depression in Bipolar I Disorder: Prevalence, Phenomenology, and Outcome -- Maj et al. 160 (12): 2134 -- Am J Psychiatry

 

The researchers were trying to determine the occurance of agitated depression in people who suffer from Bipolar I. From the study:

 

 

 

This means that 80.5% don't suffer from agitated depression, but that leaves normal depression to take from that smaller number. If we are to accept the 68% without depression, that means that 12.5% have normal depression. The rate of depression for the american population is 6.7% (NIMH: The Numbers Count. I still have not found any information directly relating to bipolar depression, but I am still searching.

So, I was wrong, but it is higher than what I was told.

I didn't mean to say it differently, but it ended up being even higher, so you're welcome, and thanks dave.