Are you a vegan?

[infamous]

If one eats beef and beef eats grass, does that make one a vegan?:hihi:

Absolutely C1ay, if only by proxy........Infy

[Edella]

If one eats beef and beef eats grass, does that make one a vegan?:hihi:

Conversely, if one eats carnivorous plants, does that make one a carnivore?

[TheBigDog]

If one eats beef and beef eats grass, does that make one a vegan?

Absolutely C1ay, if only by proxy........Infy

Then by proxy we are in fact all solar powered.:hihi:

 

Bill

[LJP07]

To all the vegans out there, if the Doctor told you that you had to eat certian meats or you would die due to some disease? Would you eat them? Hypothesise.

[HydrogenBond]

Human's are naturally omivores. This orientation allows maximum adaptability to the natural environment. Social environments are different because they make it far easier to ignor natural instinct, allowing a more restrictive philosphical diet.

 

For example, if we did an experiment where we took 10 people, half vegans and half ominvores, who were given only the logistical means to live off the land, the omnivores would be more adaptable, since they are able to eat anything a vegan could eat plus concentrated moving food sources that are not seasonal. Once hunger set in, the vegan philosophy would be thrown out the window, and one-by-one natural omnivore tendancies would become apparent. The vegan would begin to compromise by adding eggs, milk, cheese, bugs, fish, etc., to their diet. If this is still not enough, they would have their steak well done.

[Tree]

I'll eat just about any meat except liver.

I had the understanding that the Bible suggests that man was first a veggie eater,and then became a meat eater shortly after the flood.Maybe someone can help me on that.

[Turtle]

I'll eat just about any meat except liver.

I had the understanding that the Bible suggests that man was first a veggie eater,and then became a meat eater shortly after the flood.Maybe someone can help me on that.

 

Not sure about the Bible, but the oldest written evidence of the human omnivore is the Epic of Gilgamesh, which predates the Bible. The first food reference below is only evidence of hunting; whether for food or not is unspecified. The second, evidence only of cooking, and again meat is not specified. The last reference is however completely umambiguous.

 

The Mesopotamian Epic of Gilgamesh is one of the oldest and most moving stories rooted in the ancient wisdom-tradition of mankind. Recited for nearly three millennia, it was virtually lost for another two with the advent of Christianity.

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One day a stalker, a hunter, met Enkidu face to face at a waterhole. Benumbed with fear, the trapper retreated to his house and spoke to his father about the powerful man in the hills who fills up the pits, tears out the traps, and allows the beasts to slip through his hands.

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When I look at you, you have become like a god. Why do you yearn to run wild again with the beasts in the hills? Get up from the ground, up from the bed of a shepherd." The advice of the woman came into Enkidu's heart. She divided her clothing and covered him, and kept the other part for herself (an allusion to the separation of the sexes). She brought him to a shepherd's house and taught him to eat cooked food, including bread, which he had not known.

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Grieving for his dead companion Enkidu, Gilgamesh seized the road in search of knowledge. He entered the wilderness, crossed uncrossable mountains, and traveled the seas -- all without sleep to calm his face. He battled wild beasts, covered himself with their skins, and ate their flesh.

 

The Epic of Gilgamesh: A Spiritual Biography by W. T. S. Thackara

[Tree]

Thanks.The Gilgamesh tablets also make reference to a trapper:

"He filled in the pits that I had dug,

wrenched out my traps that I had spread,"

 

As you said ,the epic is older than the earliest Hebrew manuscript.

[Turtle]

Thanks.The Gilgamesh tablets also make reference to a trapper:

"He filled in the pits that I had dug,

wrenched out my traps that I had spread,"

 

As you said ,the epic is older than the earliest Hebrew manuscript.

 

And in retrospect, the bread & wine is as significant as the trapping & meat-eating. Both requiring sophisticated technology as well as witnessing it. In using that link to search out the references, I realized it's an annotated version of the epic . I don't have a hardcopy translation anymore, but maybe I can find just a straight translation on line.

 

Mmmmm....I wonder what the oldest references to milk, cheese, and eggs are...mmmmm....

[Jay-qu]

Then by proxy we are in fact all solar powered.

 

Bill

you mean nuclear powered

[Turtle]

you mean nuclear powered :D

 

You mean, that BigDog means, nuclear fussion powered. > :doh:

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[maikeru]

Here's an article about the study I mentioned in the opening post:

 

Vegetarians are more intelligent, says study | News | This is London

 

Nah, it's fish & frogs. :(

 

LiveScience.com - Something Fishy: How Humans Got So Smart

[Drip Curl Magic]

I avoid meat when I can.

 

But when I'm starving to death and one of my friend's mothers offers me a plate of chicken, I'm not gonna turn down an opportunity to fill my belly.

 

Part time vegan.

[Racoon]

* On a related note *

 

The FDA has approved cloned animals safe for consumption... :D

 

FDA says cloned animals are OK to eat - More Health News - MSNBC.com

 

WASHINGTON - The government declared Thursday that food from cloned animals is safe to eat.

 

After more than five years of study, the Food and Drug Administration concluded that cloned livestock is “virtually indistinguishable” from conventional livestock.

 

FDA believes “that meat and milk from cattle, swine and goat clones is as safe to eat as the food we eat every day,” said Stephen Sundlof, director of the FDA Center for Veterinary Medicine....

 

[infamous]

you mean nuclear powered

But ofcourse, nuclear fusion to be specific................Infy

[Peter Parker]

I dont know what to pick. Im not an omnivore cause I dont eat meat...yet Im not a vegan cause I eat dairy products

[Boerseun]

But ofcourse, nuclear fusion to be specific................Infy

That'll be fission, to the best of my knowledge...