Queso Posted October 28, 2007 Report Posted October 28, 2007 two years . . that is unimaginably terrible. Quote
Freddy Posted October 28, 2007 Report Posted October 28, 2007 Excuse me if I do not get all teary for this 17 year old male who filmed a 15 year old female engaging him in oral sex. Ten years was way too much. Time served? Cedars 1 Quote
C1ay Posted October 28, 2007 Report Posted October 28, 2007 Excuse me if I do not get all teary for this 17 year old male who filmed a 15 year old female engaging him in oral sex. Ten years was way too much. Time served? Uh, Mr.Wilson did not film anything, someone else did. That is their crime, not his. Quote
Freddy Posted October 29, 2007 Report Posted October 29, 2007 Uh, Mr.Wilson did not film anything, someone else did. That is their crime, not his.It was his friends who did the taping. They were all in on it. I refuse to believe he did not know about the video camera. There was a reason people said when I was growing up, "15 will get you 20". They must have forgotten to inform poor Genarlow and his friends. Quote
C1ay Posted October 29, 2007 Report Posted October 29, 2007 It doesn't matter if he knew about the camera. He is still NOT GUILTY of filming anything himself. That he committed an illegal act on film does not make him guilty of illegally recording that act. That's why he was not charged or convicted of creating pornography. Quote
CraigD Posted October 29, 2007 Report Posted October 29, 2007 There was a reason people said when I was growing up, "15 will get you 20". They must have forgotten to inform poor Genarlow and his friends.Or perhaps he heard another legal aphorism popular when I was growing up: “you’re under 18, you won’t be doing any time”. In this case, both aphorisms proved inaccurate. :) I applaud the Georgia legislature for changing the law so that the actions Wilson engaged in are no longer criminal, and the Georgia Supreme Court for overturning his conviction.:) I condemn the Georgia Attorney General for not exercising the discretion that could have made the latter unnecessary. Quote
Freddy Posted October 29, 2007 Report Posted October 29, 2007 It doesn't matter if he knew about the camera. He is still NOT GUILTY of filming anything himself. That he committed an illegal act on film does not make him guilty of illegally recording that act. That's why he was not charged or convicted of creating pornography.Was anyone else charged with what is obviously child pornography? If he knew the sex party was going to be filmed then he was a part of it. Quote
C1ay Posted October 29, 2007 Report Posted October 29, 2007 You still don't get it. It doesn't matter if he was one of the actors. HE DID NOT ILLEGALLY FILM ANYTHING. He would have to physically be in control of the camera for that. He was not charged or convicted of filming anything. Your statement:Excuse me if I do not get all teary for this 17 year old male who filmed a 15 year old female engaging him in oral sex.is factually incorrect, period. As I said before, Mr. Wilson did not film anything. Quote
Freddy Posted October 29, 2007 Report Posted October 29, 2007 Or perhaps he heard another legal aphorism popular when I was growing up: “you’re under 18, you won’t be doing any time”. In this case, both aphorisms proved inaccurate. :) I applaud the Georgia legislature for changing the law so that the actions Wilson engaged in are no longer criminal, and the Georgia Supreme Court for overturning his conviction.:) I condemn the Georgia Attorney General for not exercising the discretion that could have made the latter unnecessary.From wikipedia:"In part because of the publicity surrounding this case, the law under which Wilson was convicted was changed after his conviction; the act would now be treated as a misdemeanor with a maximum sentence of one year in prison, and no sex offender registration," The act is still a crime, now a misdemeanor, and the Georgia Supreme Court ruled the sentence to be "cruel and unusual punishment" leaving his conviction still standing. Quote
Freddy Posted October 29, 2007 Report Posted October 29, 2007 You still don't get it. It doesn't matter if he was one of the actors. HE DID NOT ILLEGALLY FILM ANYTHING. He would have to physically be in control of the camera for that. He was not charged or convicted of filming anything. Your statement: is factually incorrect, period. As I said before, Mr. Wilson did not film anything.If a group of people conspire to commit a crime, in this case child pornography, they all can be charged whether it was one individual who did the actual filming or all of them. It looks like no one was ever charged with making child pornography in this case. Quote
C1ay Posted October 29, 2007 Report Posted October 29, 2007 That's all irrelevant. You specifically said that he filmed the act and he, in fact, did not. Your statement was wrong. That was my only point. Quote
Freddy Posted October 29, 2007 Report Posted October 29, 2007 That's all irrelevant. You specifically said that he filmed the act and he, in fact, did not. Your statement was wrong. That was my only point.Yes, I get the fact that he was too busy to hold the camera. If you look at the federal Child Pornography Act it states any person under 18 is considered a child and filming them in sexual acts is illegal. Why none of the six who were convicted were not charged here is amazing? Perhaps as some have said the DA was guilty of distributing child porn and that may have had something to do with it? Quote
TheBigDog Posted October 29, 2007 Report Posted October 29, 2007 That's all irrelevant. You specifically said that he filmed the act and he, in fact, did not. Your statement was wrong. That was my only point.You are aiming very carefully at that hair, C1ay. Boris Karloff did not make any horror films, he only starred in them. :) *and to no particular quote...* Genarlow was in prison and western civilization survived. Genarlow is out of prison and western civilization survives. I blame Jeb Bush, he always thought of Georgia as northern Florida, Constitution be damned! Bill Quote
REASON Posted October 29, 2007 Report Posted October 29, 2007 All it takes is a tidbit of common sense to realize that the intention of this law is to address child molestation cases where an adult takes advantage of and violates an innocent, defenseless kid. It was not intended to be enforced to the letter of the law with regard to consentual acts among teenagers virtually the same age. The language of the statute neglected to take a situation like this one into consideration. This is apparent by the fact that they went back and ammended it. What we had is a head-strong prosecutor who is so ideologically driven, and consumed by his by-the-book mentality, that he forgot (or was unaware) of a simple truth about American teenagers: They like to have sex! When I was growing up there were a lot of teenage kids experimenting with sex before they were 18. Nobody went to prison over it. This case is rediculous. A pure miscarriage of justice. It isn't child porn and it isn't child molestation. It's high school kids video taping something that they do all the time when video cameras aren't around. I'm not saying it's a good thing, and I'm not saying that there shouldn't be a legal line drawn. I'm just saying that it happens all the time, and in this case, doesn't and shouldn't rise to the level of a felony with incarceration. The focus should be on the real predators, not consentual teenagers with hyperactive sex drives. This kids life shouldn't be destroyed over a blow job. A misdemeanor is all this is worth. Quote
Zythryn Posted October 29, 2007 Report Posted October 29, 2007 In addition, if you are going to pursue the child pornography angle, Wilson is a victim, not the criminal. As he was also under 18. Charging Wilson is the same as charging the girl for child pornography (especially if they were both 'willing' which it appears?) Quote
Eclogite Posted November 2, 2007 Report Posted November 2, 2007 The entire episode reveals a society that is only marginally superior to those which practiced human sacrifice and justified it as being for the good of the community. It does nothing but deepen my contempt for the judicial system and the blinkered conservatism that supports it. To say that such mindless nonsense makes me incandescent with rage is to rather understate the situation. At least now partial justice has been done, but the cost to this young man has been horrendous. REASON and TheFaithfulStone 2 Quote
TheFaithfulStone Posted November 2, 2007 Report Posted November 2, 2007 Now THAT'S some anger. TFS Quote
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